With Kano Revealed as a returning character in MK X, so possibly rules out some of the returning characters in MK X?
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posted08/15/2014 03:44 AM (UTC)by
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With Kano revealed just now as a returning character in MK X, would that possibly rules out other returning characters such as Stryker,Jax and Hsu Hao?

Because we saw from the new gameplay that Kano has the cybernetic arm of Jax's and also some of his special moves such as : Dash Punch, Gotcha Grab

We also saw Stryker's Grenade Toss

And the last one is Hsu Hao Cybernetic Heart and Lazer Attack

I don't agree that there will be a character that share the same special moves in the same game

What do you think guys?
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Icebaby
08/12/2014 10:02 AM (UTC)
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Why is it always the abilities of the character that determines the fate of non-announced characters and not the actual story?

I mean, so what if someone is sharing a move with another, that's not a fate determination. I honestly don't see that at all and quite frankly it irks me to keep seeing this. Like, D'Vorah has Reptile's crawl move from Mortal Konbat 4, should I rule him out because of that? It's not like these characters CAN'T do other things.
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08/12/2014 10:06 AM (UTC)
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elson Wrote:

Because we saw from the new gameplay that Kano has the cybernetic arm of Jax's and also some of his special moves such as : Dash Punch, Gotcha Grab


Yeah, that was kind of a dick move since Jax is a great character and I like him more than Kano. Really hope they don't use that as an excuse to get rid of Jaxie.

elson Wrote:
We also saw Stryker's Grenade Toss


That seemed to be more like Cyrax's grenade toss to me.
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08/12/2014 10:52 AM (UTC)
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elson Wrote:
With Kano revealed just now as a returning character in MK X, would that possibly rules out other returning characters such as Stryker,Jax and Hsu Hao?


Stryker died in the story.
Jax died in the story.
And I think NRS said they will never bring back Hsu Hao.

Soooo...no, Kano returning did not rule out dead characters.

And Kano's arm accessories are just arm guards I believe. He has the same arm guards from MK9, now he has new ones on his shoulders.

From a glimpse, yeah he does look like Jax and I think that's why the naysayers are riding his cock now about his look being "omg better than ever". They don't know it yet. And it makes sense though, the community has been bitching about Jax's outfit/model for years, and NRS finally got it right in MK9.

As for the bomb thing. It's more resembling to Cyrax's bomb combo.
I know Cyrax can have a new combo and such, and I know it's not strong evidence, but this is the one rare time I will jump the gun and say that Cyrax will die in the story simply because of this. smile
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08/12/2014 10:53 AM (UTC)
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This reveal proves nothing , remember when we saw kotals fatality the heart rip, and everyone was freaking out ! There goes kanos chances of being in, well they just got proven wrong Kano is in!

To me this proves anyone and everyone has a chance of making it in , its fair game now , I'm excited to see who they show next
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08/12/2014 12:25 PM (UTC)
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Look, no one's inclusion rules out another character. Why is this a popular assumption.

Hsu Hao won't be in the game because NRS does not like him, not because Kano was revealed yesterday.

Stryker, Jax, Sonya, etc = fair game.

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08/12/2014 12:37 PM (UTC)
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Well Hsu Hoa will never be in the game again if it is up to Boon.

And Stryker, well Cassie Cage + Kano = Bye bye Kurtis.

I don't think Jax will be in ( the horror!!!) so I think Kano uses some of his moves, but only a few. Tremor will probably steal the ground stomp.
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08/12/2014 12:54 PM (UTC)
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Kotal Kahn has Kano's heart rip, but both of them are in.
Exclude a character just because another one has borrowed some of his moves is just silly.
Ed Boon personally remarked how annoying was when people assumed that a character isn't in just because another one with similar name/appearance/moves is in.

I can see Jax and Stryker out of this game, but only for storyline reasons.

Personally, I wouldn't mind the return of fallen heroes as DLC.
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08/12/2014 01:13 PM (UTC)
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I don't say that they will be ruled out 100% out of this game! I just say it will be high possibility they would't make it in mk x, this is just an opinion! No offense
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08/12/2014 01:33 PM (UTC)
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No. The chances that Stryker, Hsu Hao and Jax would return were already slim. Kano's reveal proves nothing really.
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08/12/2014 04:05 PM (UTC)
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Funny, some people thought Stryker couldn't have returned in the 3D games because of Jax's gun special and his tonfas, when Stryker had so many other moves he could have had to himself.

Does Kano have every single one of Stryker's special moves? Or Jax's? Or Hsu Hao's? No, he doesn't.

As for people saying Hsu Hao will never return, ha, I swear, people really do take these statements at face value. Like the developers couldn't change their minds, ever. Wasn't the same thing said about Stryker once, before he finally came back in Armageddon?
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Funny, some people thought Stryker couldn't have returned in the 3D games because of Jax's gun special and his tonfas, when Stryker had so many other moves he could have had to himself.

Does Kano have every single one of Stryker's special moves? Or Jax's? Or Hsu Hao's? No, he doesn't.

As for people saying Hsu Hao will never return, ha, I swear, people really do take these statements at face value. Like the developers couldn't change their minds, ever. Wasn't the same thing said about Stryker once, before he finally came back in Armageddon?


Except He HAD to come back for Armageddon like Hsu Hao, Motaro and Meat.
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08/12/2014 04:17 PM (UTC)
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Ion3008 Wrote:
DG1OA Wrote:
Funny, some people thought Stryker couldn't have returned in the 3D games because of Jax's gun special and his tonfas, when Stryker had so many other moves he could have had to himself.

Does Kano have every single one of Stryker's special moves? Or Jax's? Or Hsu Hao's? No, he doesn't.

As for people saying Hsu Hao will never return, ha, I swear, people really do take these statements at face value. Like the developers couldn't change their minds, ever. Wasn't the same thing said about Stryker once, before he finally came back in Armageddon?


Except He HAD to come back for Armageddon like Hsu Hao, Motaro and Meat.


Alright, he had to come back. Also the case for MK9 (then again, they only gave Motaro some shitty cameo, so it's not like they couldn't have done the same for Stryker). So, if his return hadn't been a necessity for those two games, are you saying Stryker never would have returned?

It's just so goofy that people think they really can predict the future. Like the MK series might not be around for much longer. It could be around for twenty more years, and I'm supposed to believe that in all that time, no one developing the games could decide to bring back Hsu Hao? Please.
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08/12/2014 04:35 PM (UTC)
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What NRS did with Stryker was amazing. They took a very hated MK character, gave him a second chance and made him quite likeable to alot of people.

The same could happen to any of the other more disliked characters, so ruling a character out because he/she isn't well-liked or resembles another more well-liked character is foolish, because NRS has already proven that it doesn't matter.
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08/12/2014 06:06 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
The same could happen to any of the other more disliked characters, so ruling a character out because he/she isn't well-liked or resembles another more well-liked character is foolish, because NRS has already proven that it doesn't matter.


And this is why I haven't and won't state a firm hate for anyone who's got a shot in this game. I dislike some who have a fair chance, or even "hated" them in the past, but MK9 proved me a fool for jumping to conclusions.

The hate is a post-release discussion for me. grin
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08/12/2014 07:22 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
What NRS did with Stryker was amazing. They took a very hated MK character, gave him a second chance and made him quite likeable to alot of people.

The same could happen to any of the other more disliked characters, so ruling a character out because he/she isn't well-liked or resembles another more well-liked character is foolish, because NRS has already proven that it doesn't matter.


stryker was always cool imo. maybe because i was only amazed by him as a little kid because he had a gun lol.
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08/12/2014 07:25 PM (UTC)
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squirt007nc Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
What NRS did with Stryker was amazing. They took a very hated MK character, gave him a second chance and made him quite likeable to alot of people.

The same could happen to any of the other more disliked characters, so ruling a character out because he/she isn't well-liked or resembles another more well-liked character is foolish, because NRS has already proven that it doesn't matter.


stryker was always cool imo. maybe because i was only amazed by him as a little kid because he had a gun lol.


Oh, I liked him too in MK3-MKT, and even in MKA, but he was overall not liked in the MK community. Along with Nightwolf. Nightwolf was all the way down there along with Stryker and Jarek before he appeared in MKD.
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08/12/2014 07:36 PM (UTC)
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I'd say it rules out Jarek's appearance if anyone. They'd have to do so much to flesh him out to give him 3 unique variations that they might as well give his slot to a new character.

Plus i'm pretty sure next to all of Jarek's moves would come out of nowhere if he were in the game. Even the moves he had in MKA were sorta left field compared to what he had in MK4 so hopefully he's on the perma-bench.

And yeah they're never bringing Hsu Hao back. Unless it's to show him being killed in a cutscene. At least that's guaranteed.
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08/12/2014 07:44 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
squirt007nc Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
What NRS did with Stryker was amazing. They took a very hated MK character, gave him a second chance and made him quite likeable to alot of people.

The same could happen to any of the other more disliked characters, so ruling a character out because he/she isn't well-liked or resembles another more well-liked character is foolish, because NRS has already proven that it doesn't matter.


stryker was always cool imo. maybe because i was only amazed by him as a little kid because he had a gun lol.


Oh, I liked him too in MK3-MKT, and even in MKA, but he was overall not liked in the MK community. Along with Nightwolf. Nightwolf was all the way down there along with Stryker and Jarek before he appeared in MKD.


Nightwolf was never as bad as Jarek, stop that nonsense.
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08/12/2014 07:50 PM (UTC)
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Hooky-Fooky Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
squirt007nc Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
What NRS did with Stryker was amazing. They took a very hated MK character, gave him a second chance and made him quite likeable to alot of people.

The same could happen to any of the other more disliked characters, so ruling a character out because he/she isn't well-liked or resembles another more well-liked character is foolish, because NRS has already proven that it doesn't matter.


stryker was always cool imo. maybe because i was only amazed by him as a little kid because he had a gun lol.


Oh, I liked him too in MK3-MKT, and even in MKA, but he was overall not liked in the MK community. Along with Nightwolf. Nightwolf was all the way down there along with Stryker and Jarek before he appeared in MKD.


Nightwolf was never as bad as Jarek, stop that nonsense.


I am saying that Nightwolf and Stryker were down there in the bottom of the barrel along with Jarek. While Jarek might be bottom last, Nightwolf and Stryker came right after.
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08/14/2014 06:57 PM (UTC)
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Lol I don't think Hsu Hao will ever be in another MK game again. Pretty sure John Vogel couldn't stand him and I don't think many others liked him either

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v;=odCqmmJ87pg
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08/14/2014 07:11 PM (UTC)
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Blade4693 Wrote:
Lol I don't think Hsu Hao will ever be in another MK game again. Pretty sure John Vogel couldn't stand him and I don't think many others liked him either

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v;=odCqmmJ87pg


I want to say I read a tweet about someone asking if Hsu Hao is jealous of Kano's chest-piece. Boon replied along the lines of - "Yes, and we don't care!"

I honestly don't even know who to expect at this point, lol. Kano threw me for a loop. As well as the Sonya and Liu Kang rumors.
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08/14/2014 07:37 PM (UTC)
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unleash_your_tounge Wrote:
Blade4693 Wrote:
Lol I don't think Hsu Hao will ever be in another MK game again. Pretty sure John Vogel couldn't stand him and I don't think many others liked him either

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v;=odCqmmJ87pg


I want to say I read a tweet about someone asking if Hsu Hao is jealous of Kano's chest-piece. Boon replied along the lines of - "Yes, and we don't care!"

I honestly don't even know who to expect at this point, lol. Kano threw me for a loop. As well as the Sonya and Liu Kang rumors.


Lol that's awesome, I never liked Hsu Hao, actually tbh I couldn't stand him. I did like his comic inspired Thunder Clap move (Likely from Hulk) but that's it.
I'm in the same boat. Idk why but I did not expect to see Kano in MKX either, I definitely didn't expect him to get an announcement trailer and everything. So im lost as what to expect next. Id like to see Ermac come back with an outfit similar to his alternate in MK2011 but darker and more loose fitting.
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08/14/2014 09:01 PM (UTC)
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If Jax is in, he can get different moves in accordance to his variations. He doesn't even need the sonic thing. He can send a rumble by pounding the ground with both fists which breaks open the ground to his opponents feet, which makes them fall to the ground apposed to stumbling backwards.

Anyways....I would like Jax to be more cyber-ish (as I thought Kano would of been), or he can return as an undead from the Netherrealm.

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08/15/2014 03:44 AM (UTC)
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Ground splitting sounds more Tremor to me but it would work for Jax as well.
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