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Thoughts about revenant smoke/enenra.....
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posted09/14/2015 07:29 PM (UTC)by
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so I was thinking about smoke in MKX and as we all know in his ending of MK9 it was revealed that he was in fact an enenra a demon of smoke and vapour and for reasons not known it was only adopting a human form being the smoke we all know and love.

So in MK9 he died and was turned into a revenant like the others however he no longer identifies himself as smoke he identifies as enenra as stated to cages MKX. Now we saw the process by which Quan chi makes revenants it is through that pool of goo in his fortress and he basically creates a carbon copy of the dead combatant possessing the living ones thoughts, memories skills etc and they are loyal to him.

So my question is with smoke is this what Quan chi did to him like the others and like he was doing to cage in MKX? Or when smoke was killed by sindel did the enenra side of him take over and just adopt the form of a revenant to go along with the others?

They didn't really explain much about smoke in this game and they probably won't till the next one if then even. But I thought it might be an interesting talking point to get some people's thoughts on one of MKs most interesting and popular characters....
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 •09/08/2015 03:58 AM (UTC) •
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Enenra probably took over from Tomas control once turned into a revanant
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 •09/08/2015 04:17 AM (UTC) •
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What annoys me... small thing, but peeves me nonetheless, is...

In MK9, they refered to him as "An Enenra" ... as though it were a race or type of creature. Creatures of smoke and vapor. One of several.

And in MKX, they're treating it like the name of a specific demon/creature that happens to have taken over Smoke.

Like I said, relatively small inconsistency in the grand scheme of things, but bugs me nonetheless.
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 •09/08/2015 04:47 AM (UTC) •
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Yeah that inconsistency annoys me to I was of the impression that he was one of many enenras but now after MKX it leads you to believe that the demons name is enenra???

As for the enenra taking over when smoke was turned into a revenant I thought that was possible too before we found out how Quan makes revenants. He basically makes a whole new body for them and somehow traps their soul inside so if he made a whole new body smoke (like he did for sub and was doing for cage) he would no longer be an enenra right? Because he became an enenra by being sacrificed when he was a child however if Quan chi made a whole new smoke a revenant smoke the enenra thing would've never happened to smoke
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 •09/08/2015 04:57 AM (UTC) •
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Gillbob316 Wrote:
And in MKX, they're treating it like the name of a specific demon/creature that happens to have taken over Smoke.

It could still be a type of creature rather than a specific named creature. Kind of like the song "I Am Murloc".
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 •09/08/2015 02:11 PM (UTC) •
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I look at it this way:

The Enenra wasn't inhabiting Smoke's body. It became intertwined with his soul, hence they were essentially a unified being. It gave Tomas enhanced powers and abilities, but what its ultimate goal was, we do not know. It may have simply remained with him, dormant. Just as Bi Han's evil side, Noob Saibot, manifested and identified itself separately from Bi Han, so too does the Smoke revenant identify itself as Enenra. It could be as simple as Smoke embracing the dark entity within him that gives him his power. Jax, Nightwolf, Kabal, Stryker, Kitana, Liu Kang, Kung Lao and Sub-Zero weren't evil, yet they fought at Quan Chi's side without question. Smoke is doing the same. In this corrupted form, he identifies himself not as the man, but as the demon within.

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 •09/08/2015 02:28 PM (UTC) •
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He has been an Enenra for a while according to MK9. Once he was sacrificed to the demon as a kid he came back as an Enenra, killed the captors/cult, reverted to his human form and lost all his memories (Which makes sense since his bio says he has no memory of his childhood) The only reason he ever had smoke powers is because he (for some reason) came back to life as enenra after he was killed as a kid, as it says he was "only a boy" before he was sacrificed.

Anyway, apparently after dying and being brought back as a revenant he is now aware of what he really is, or at least that's my interpretation of it.

Though it was weird how he referred to himself as Enenra like a name instead of "I am an Enenra" lol not sure what that's about.
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 •09/08/2015 07:08 PM (UTC) •
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They essentially gave Smoke a combination of the Scorpion / Noob treatment.

"Scorpion" is now essentially another being inhabiting Hanzo's body as a sort of second consciousness. He is essentially the product of Hanzo's extreme emotional trauma.

Noob Saibot is essentially the darker nature of Bi Han's psyche made manifest after his fall into the Netherrealm. Noob is actually Bi Han, only with no emotion, empathy, for those around him.

Enenra may be the darker nature of Smoke, or another consciousness inside Thomas Vrbada's mind (we don't know yet), who after he died, took over control Smoke's body. Smoke's MK9 bio said he came back as an Enenra after being burned to death, so "the Enenra" is Thomas, but the personally (if that is what it is) could be a manifestation of Thomas' damaged psyche.

It may be cheesy, it may be lame, as it has already been done in the MK story, but that is seemingly what they did here.
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 •09/12/2015 03:10 PM (UTC) •
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The way I look at it is that he's abandoned the smoke code name and has taken on the name enenra for the way that he now is an evil version of himself being reborn through a demons actions so he's taken on a more demonic name for himself
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 •09/12/2015 03:52 PM (UTC) •
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Zebron Wrote:
Gillbob316 Wrote:
And in MKX, they're treating it like the name of a specific demon/creature that happens to have taken over Smoke.

It could still be a type of creature rather than a specific named creature. Kind of like the song "I Am Murloc".


That's how I see it, like if Goro said "I am Shokan".
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 •09/12/2015 06:15 PM (UTC) •
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Spartages Wrote:
Zebron Wrote:
Gillbob316 Wrote:
And in MKX, they're treating it like the name of a specific demon/creature that happens to have taken over Smoke.

It could still be a type of creature rather than a specific named creature. Kind of like the song "I Am Murloc".


That's how I see it, like if Goro said "I am Shokan".

Or "I am human"
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 •09/14/2015 10:02 AM (UTC) •
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lanadelrey Wrote:
Spartages Wrote:
Zebron Wrote:
Gillbob316 Wrote:
And in MKX, they're treating it like the name of a specific demon/creature that happens to have taken over Smoke.

It could still be a type of creature rather than a specific named creature. Kind of like the song "I Am Murloc".


That's how I see it, like if Goro said "I am Shokan".

Or "I am human"


Bi-han: I am Lin Kuei!
- Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub-zero
I... AM KLINGON!

Or Genie, from Disneys Aladdin, a Djinn nammed Djinn

Tomas Verbada is no longer known as Smoke
Bi-Han is no longer known as Sub-Zero
Hanzo was known as Scorpion before he was killed, so that`s off.

Noob Saibot & Scorpion aren`t species names though... well Scorpion is, but he isn`t A scorpion, even if his spear mimics a scorpion`s stinging tail...



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 •09/14/2015 07:29 PM (UTC) •
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asmodeus Wrote:
Noob Saibot is essentially the darker nature of Bi Han's psyche made manifest after his fall into the Netherrealm. Noob is actually Bi Han, only with no emotion, empathy, for those around him.


Noob as been confirmed as a revenant by Vogel. It's funny you say this because that's prettty much what the revenants are. Corrupted souls focusing on their bad thoughts and dwelling on negativity.

Anyway, the Enenra is not a demon living within Smoke. Smoke is an Enenra.

I think you guys are misunderstand his MK9 ending. The cult didn't try to sacrifice him to a smoke demon that took over his body. They did a human sacrifice and, taking a page from japanese mythology where Enenras come out of bonfire, his smoke form emerged when they burned him alive.

He's not a possessed human. He's a demon himself. He spent his whole life with smoke powers unaware of his true identity but when Quan Chi took his soul it became aware that it wasn't human, but enenra. His corrupted soul embraced his true identity.

Enenras hide under human forms. That's all Tomas Vrbada unknowingly was. Forgetting his past, he believed himself as human.

Also, let's not forget Deception Smoke. I know he wasn't Enenra back then, but when the Special Forces removed parts of Cyrax's armor there was flesh underneath. Smoke had... smoke.
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