Sub-Zero theory [RE: MK2011 Arcade Ending]
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posted06/15/2014 08:56 AM (UTC)by
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Scar_Subby
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08/19/2010 11:17 PM (UTC)
So, I found this from a guy on TRMK, and don't know whether to believe or not. However, I can see the resemblance. Watch as Sub-Zero freezes himself after round 1. About halfway through the video. It resembles Shao Kahn (or just a samurai).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYDyzfrAjnA [More Gamespot Demo Matches]

Basically the guy believes Sub-Zero is Shao Kahn. What do you guys think? Again watch Sub-Zero's freeze pose. It resembles a Samurai as well to me.

God, I hope they didn't decide cyber sub-zero's ending was actually good.
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Noobsmoke92
06/14/2014 02:58 AM (UTC)
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Really man? With that Iogic I will assume that Cassie Cage is female Stryker,because she shoots at people. I know YOU don't believe that bull. Cyber Sub-Zero ending was a parody attempt at Warcraft.
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Scar_Subby
06/14/2014 03:00 AM (UTC)
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I don't, but at the same time do you notice the resemblance? I mean pause it when he freezes.
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Noobsmoke92
06/14/2014 03:13 AM (UTC)
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Scar_Subby Wrote:
I don't, but at the same time do you notice the resemblance? I mean pause it when he freezes.


I believe it has to do more with this Grandmaster variation of his than being Shao Kahn. They never fully explained what Dragon Medallion is and where it originated,only that Grandmasters of Lin Kuei wear it and it somehow gives them more power,but also ages them as well (at least Kuai Liang did age a lot in MKDA). Maybe they will explain the origins of DM in MKX?
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Scar_Subby
06/14/2014 03:05 PM (UTC)
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Okay Subz also has that move where he slams the ice SLEDGEHAMMER to the ground. Consider me worried a little. NRS would pull this. Don't think they wouldn't.
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06/14/2014 06:47 PM (UTC)
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I was prepared to point and mock you before clicking the thread; after watching the video I can see how someone who is slightly too analytical might come to this conclusion. It's certainly a fun, interesting little idea, but I doubt it.
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06/14/2014 07:07 PM (UTC)
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I assume its a coincidence and if we saw him do that from the front, we'd see the helmet doesn't form.

But could you imagine....I think I kinda want this to happen.....but it wont, I wouldnt concern yourself over it
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Okay Subz also has that move where he slams the ice SLEDGEHAMMER to the ground. Consider me worried a little. NRS would pull this. Don't think they wouldn't.


The chances are indeed there that Sub would become on of the new khans
I too was a little shocked to see they gave him an ice-hammer that looked very similar to shao's hammer.
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Lokheit
06/14/2014 08:18 PM (UTC)
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I saw the same pose facing towards the camera and it doesn't resemble a samurai or Kahn at all.

I wouldn't be worried about this. The hammer (and daggers) are there for versaility and show how he can create anything he wants from ice (you seriously think Kahn would use daggers?).
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Scar_Subby
06/14/2014 08:43 PM (UTC)
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Whew! Okay, yeah I'm calmed about it now. I just know with all the shit NRS has done to Sub-Zero that I would not rule it out.
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06/14/2014 08:54 PM (UTC)
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Scar_Subby Wrote:
Whew! Okay, yeah I'm calmed about it now. I just know with all the shit NRS has done to Sub-Zero that I would not rule it out.


Affirming him as the second foremost character in the franchise and taking him in a bold different direction which the fans didn't like and so they are now reversing? Yeah, the bastards.

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Scar_Subby
06/14/2014 09:10 PM (UTC)
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Sorry brah, it wasn't original. It was Smoke's story on another character. It also would have kept Sub-Zero looking the same forever.

All the looks he's had over the years, ninja, unmasked, old man, shredder would never be able to be used again. All because he's a damn cyborg. So, no it was not original or good.

Bold, yeah maybe. Good it was not though.
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06/14/2014 09:12 PM (UTC)
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Scar_Subby Wrote:
Sorry brag, it wasn't original, it was Smoke's story on another character. It also would have kept Sub-Zero looking the same forever.

All the looks he's had over the years, ninja, unmasked, old man, shredder would never be able to be used again. All because he's a damn cyborg. So, no it was not original or good.


So essentially, your argument is that the most used and prevalent character in the franchise is not in your favourite version of the character at present? And that because he's now a cyborg, he can't have any of those looks, despite him clearly having his ninja look in the brand new footage of the next game?

Wow, you are so hard done by! I have no idea why everyone thinks Sub Zero fans are so entitled
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Scar_Subby
06/14/2014 09:18 PM (UTC)
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Yeah, but it's because he's been reverted back somehow. Ask anyone on these damn boards. Everyone always says the cyber initiative is irreversible. Hence, why the fuck we hate it. I do not want him being a cyborg until the damn thing reboots again.
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06/14/2014 09:30 PM (UTC)
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Scar_Subby Wrote:
Yeah, but it's because he's been reverted back somehow. Ask anyone on these damn boards. Everyone always says the cyber initiative is irreversible. Hence, why the fuck we hate it. I do not want him being a cyborg until the damn thing reboots again.
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Yeah, but it's because he's been reverted back somehow. Ask anyone on these damn boards. Everyone always says the cyber initiative is irreversible. Hence, why the fuck we hate it. I do not want him being a cyborg until the damn thing reboots again.



You do realize that Sub Zero is a title right? There have been a lot of Sub Zero's before KL and seemingly, there's one after him. You could, I dunno, be grateful for your favourite characters prevalence in the games, which is at the level where even after he's killed off, they need to bring a Sub Zero back for the next game? And maybe keep an open mind about what they have planned for the character in future? For instance, my favourite character is Reptile. All I can possibly hope for is that Reptile comes back to be a punching bag again, while NRS ignore the amazingly tragic arc of the last member of his species devolving into madness and then losing control of his own body. That was a cool arc. Reptile as the lizard guy who gets beaten up by everyone isn't even an arc, it's a dot. Sub Zero had his own game, all to himself. Sub Zero is the most fleshed out character in all of MK, with all of his potential realised in the original timeline. He even kills Scorpion in Armageddon.

But judging from the other Sub Zero thread you started three days ago, and the one where you complained that Sub Zero lost in the trailer, and the one where you asked if there was alternate box art cos it's unfair that Scorpion is on it and not Sub Zero, I'm just wasting bandwidth, as you refuse to countenance that there could be any merit in a Sub Zero that isn't KL and isn't following the exact same path as in the original timeline. I mean, Sub Zero was so misused by NRS that KL only lost to mega-Sindel but beat Kano, Sektor, Goro, Kintaro, Scorpion, Ermac! And your exact thought process is "how dare they only let him beat 20% of the roster in the story mode!" For christ's sake, the guy had TWO story mode chapters. TWO.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to try and see if I can remember all the people who beat the piss out of Reptile in MK9
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06/14/2014 10:10 PM (UTC)
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Charybdis Wrote:
Scar_Subby Wrote:
Yeah, but it's because he's been reverted back somehow. Ask anyone on these damn boards. Everyone always says the cyber initiative is irreversible. Hence, why the fuck we hate it. I do not want him being a cyborg until the damn thing reboots again.
Scar_Subby Wrote:
Yeah, but it's because he's been reverted back somehow. Ask anyone on these damn boards. Everyone always says the cyber initiative is irreversible. Hence, why the fuck we hate it. I do not want him being a cyborg until the damn thing reboots again.



You do realize that Sub Zero is a title right? There have been a lot of Sub Zero's before KL and seemingly, there's one after him. You could, I dunno, be grateful for your favourite characters prevalence in the games, which is at the level where even after he's killed off, they need to bring a Sub Zero back for the next game? And maybe keep an open mind about what they have planned for the character in future? For instance, my favourite character is Reptile. All I can possibly hope for is that Reptile comes back to be a punching bag again, while NRS ignore the amazingly tragic arc of the last member of his species devolving into madness and then losing control of his own body. That was a cool arc. Reptile as the lizard guy who gets beaten up by everyone isn't even an arc, it's a dot. Sub Zero had his own game, all to himself. Sub Zero is the most fleshed out character in all of MK, with all of his potential realised in the original timeline. He even kills Scorpion in Armageddon.

But judging from the other Sub Zero thread you started three days ago, and the one where you complained that Sub Zero lost in the trailer, and the one where you asked if there was alternate box art cos it's unfair that Scorpion is on it and not Sub Zero, I'm just wasting bandwidth, as you refuse to countenance that there could be any merit in a Sub Zero that isn't KL and isn't following the exact same path as in the original timeline. I mean, Sub Zero was so misused by NRS that KL only lost to mega-Sindel but beat Kano, Sektor, Goro, Kintaro, Scorpion, Ermac! And your exact thought process is "how dare they only let him beat 20% of the roster in the story mode!" For christ's sake, the guy had TWO story mode chapters. TWO.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to try and see if I can remember all the people who beat the piss out of Reptile in MK9


Woa. Intense.

Go reptile!
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Scar_Subby
06/15/2014 02:01 AM (UTC)
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Charybdis Wrote:
Scar_Subby Wrote:
Yeah, but it's because he's been reverted back somehow. Ask anyone on these damn boards. Everyone always says the cyber initiative is irreversible. Hence, why the fuck we hate it. I do not want him being a cyborg until the damn thing reboots again.
Scar_Subby Wrote:
Yeah, but it's because he's been reverted back somehow. Ask anyone on these damn boards. Everyone always says the cyber initiative is irreversible. Hence, why the fuck we hate it. I do not want him being a cyborg until the damn thing reboots again.



You do realize that Sub Zero is a title right? There have been a lot of Sub Zero's before KL and seemingly, there's one after him. You could, I dunno, be grateful for your favourite characters prevalence in the games, which is at the level where even after he's killed off, they need to bring a Sub Zero back for the next game? And maybe keep an open mind about what they have planned for the character in future? For instance, my favourite character is Reptile. All I can possibly hope for is that Reptile comes back to be a punching bag again, while NRS ignore the amazingly tragic arc of the last member of his species devolving into madness and then losing control of his own body. That was a cool arc. Reptile as the lizard guy who gets beaten up by everyone isn't even an arc, it's a dot. Sub Zero had his own game, all to himself. Sub Zero is the most fleshed out character in all of MK, with all of his potential realised in the original timeline. He even kills Scorpion in Armageddon.

But judging from the other Sub Zero thread you started three days ago, and the one where you complained that Sub Zero lost in the trailer, and the one where you asked if there was alternate box art cos it's unfair that Scorpion is on it and not Sub Zero, I'm just wasting bandwidth, as you refuse to countenance that there could be any merit in a Sub Zero that isn't KL and isn't following the exact same path as in the original timeline. I mean, Sub Zero was so misused by NRS that KL only lost to mega-Sindel but beat Kano, Sektor, Goro, Kintaro, Scorpion, Ermac! And your exact thought process is "how dare they only let him beat 20% of the roster in the story mode!" For christ's sake, the guy had TWO story mode chapters. TWO.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to try and see if I can remember all the people who beat the piss out of Reptile in MK9


Are you Omarion? Is this stomp the yard right now?lol. Chill out.

You're wrong. I've already ADMITTED in another thread that I'm fine with another Sub-Zero as long as it is Kuai's descendant. I HATED Bi-Han as Sub-Zero. Plain and simple. I don't want him returning. I also don't want them saying there are a sea of fucking Sub-Zero's because that allows Boon to put a new Sub-Zero in every game for Scorpion to kill.lol. It's just dumb logic too to think that there are infinite Sub-Zero's and that it's not some family lineage. At least you know Reptile will be the SAME person come next game.

Also, I haven't started another thread on Sub-Zero, so Idk what you're talking about. Also, I didn't just mention Sub-Zero having another boxart. I mentioned MULTIPLE characters having boxart. I just hate the fucking idea that not only is Scorpion on the logo, and in injustice, and every fucking where else. So, I don't want to see him on the cover as well.

Chill your tits dude.
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Progressive
06/15/2014 08:56 AM (UTC)
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In Maximilian's breakdown (part 2) you can see the same scene in higher resolution and you can see it looks far more similar to his Grandmaster armor from Deception.
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