special entrances in mk7{please read ed boon}
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05/05/2005 12:52 AM (UTC)
i think special entrances wuld be cool like ssb but 100x better. 4 example scorpion can appear from flames comin out of the ground and for sub-zero he can appear makin an ice figure and sub comes out of it.

wut do u think?
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05/31/2005 10:28 AM (UTC)
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I think more cinematic entrances would make the game feel much better. Other games have stuff where the camera frames each combatant seperately doing their pre-fight bravado. MK could go one better by having someone make a physical entrance- through a door or something. You could have a scene where one guy is already there, the opponent walks up behind, the first guy looks over his or her shoulder yada yada. All this would be done with proper movie style camera angles- rather than all in the side-on game view. There could even be some pair specific scenes- like mileena/baraka for example- perhaps for each character's (sub) sub boss.
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05/31/2005 04:34 PM (UTC)
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That is defently very kool idea!
It should be done in mk 7 !
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05/31/2005 04:42 PM (UTC)
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So you're saying you want MK to have what DBZ Budokai 3 and Backyard Wrestling 2 have? That'd be alright. I think it would work best if each character had a different reaction to another character. Like, if a character is involved with a character in the story, they'll have a different reaction to fighting them. There'll be five random poses and grunts incase the character doesn't know the person he/she is fighting.

For example:

Mileena vs. Kitana
P1 vs. P2

Mileena sneaks up behind Kitana and slits her throat with her sai. Kitana sweeps Mileena and gets up.

Mileena vs. Sub-Zero

She doesn't know Sub-Zero well enough, so she simply poses one of her five random ones.

Raiden vs. Shujinko

Raiden doesn't like Shujinko, so he throws a couple bolts of lightning at him, but Shujinko dodges them all. The battle starts.

Raiden vs. Fujin

They're friends, so they shake hands before posing, followed by fighting.

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05/31/2005 10:10 PM (UTC)
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Yeah that's the idea. Obviously having all pairs have a specific thing would be too much work, but you could have a few levels of respect- like you say, and each character could have a nemesis or two who they have a unique scene with.

I think would be a bit out of character shaking hands first then murdering them at the end with a fatality- which reminds me of another thing: wouldn't it be better if good guys fought bad guys and vice-versa?
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06/01/2005 12:17 AM (UTC)
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that would rule i like the idea alot grinsmile
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Mulletman
06/01/2005 02:54 PM (UTC)
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Ya that would be cool. Id like to see scorpion come to the fight with HBK's entrance. I think im cute, i know im sexy, igote the looks, to drive the girls wild, im mister sexy boy, not just a boy toy, im mister sexy boy.glassesglasses
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06/04/2005 04:51 AM (UTC)
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Soul Calibur 2 has something like that. The Destined Fight (2nd to last fight) has a little cinema intro for each character before the fight.

Ex: If you pick Maxi or Astaroth the destined fight shows Astaroth wondering around when all of a sudden Maxi comes out of nowhere and does a combo on him practically pushing Astaroth back. Then Astaroth gets pissed off and back into his senses with a couple of power lightening bolts and gets ready to fight Maxi.

That's a good idea, I'd like to see that done too.
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06/04/2005 05:02 AM (UTC)
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This is something I would really like to see in the next MK game. I remember a long time ago, there was a thread on this same subject for MKD.
Smoke Vs Sub-Zero:
Smoke: Accept my challange Sub-Zero!!! (sinks into fighting pose)
Sub-Zero: Fine. (Bows) I challange you to Mortal Kombat (sinks into fighting pose)
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06/04/2005 03:08 PM (UTC)
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Yeah this sounds like a good idea.

I agree that they probably wouldnt make it as personal as having something for each match up. They could perhaps do it bye having each character have an entrance when the face a good opponent, and evil one and a neutral one.

For example:

Facing Ally/ Good Aligned character:
Just perhaps a few different stances or walk up apporaches, or perfrom part of a kata before bowing and fight starts.

Facing a neutral/ unknown character:
Approach would be more weary and slow

Facing an enemy or an evil character:
An even more cautious approach, but more hasty. There could perhaps be a few demonstrarions of power before the fight starts.
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06/04/2005 11:49 PM (UTC)
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Long time enemies should have one too.

Ex:

Sub Zero Vs. Scorpion.

Scorpion Vs. Quan Chi

Liu Kang Vs. Shan Tsung.

Raiden Vs. Shao Kahn

Shao Kahn Vs. Dragon King

Etc.... They can have taunts and dialogue such as: "Long Time No See (Get's into fighting stance)" "Ahh we finally meet again (Get's into fighting stance)" "Prepare for the finally showdown (Get's into fighting stance)" Etc....
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06/09/2005 04:41 AM (UTC)
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The only special entrances they need to have is the boss entrance!! Did anybody played Mace: the Dark Ages? When you fought the boss, it show a special entrances; you walk in a room , look around, then the place starts to shake, then youy running on a bridge that collapse, and then your face to face aganist the boss.
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06/09/2005 05:03 PM (UTC)
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I’ve always wanted special entrances in MK. I think they’d look great and would be like the ones on Soul Calibur, though given the various natures and powers of the MK warriors, you have so much more room for variety.

Here are some of my ideas.

Raiden: A lightning bolt can strike the ground with several more bolts appearing and Raidens body begins to form. We see a violent flicker of electricity in his eyes as he takes his fighters stance.

Jade: Jade can use her MKD teleport to appear in place armed with her staff and this could allow her to begin the round or match in her weapon style. (Such an option could allow for alternate entrances depending on a button press).

Shang Tsung: Shang can walk onto the screen with several souls swirling around his body. He goes to tense his body whilst muttering some ancient words and absorbs the souls. His eyes glow green upon doing this.

Reptile: Reptile can leap into the arena from above whilst invisible. We would see an outline of him. You can hear Reptile hiss whilst he’s sprawled on the ground and then he can leap up and become visible mid air and land in his fighting pose.

Sub-Zero: Sub-Zero can act a little like the Silver Surfer and slide into the arena on an ice track before doing a small show off technique with his ice powers (creating an ice ball or something) and then pose.

Mileena: She can simply do her Teleport Kick into the arena or simply walk in laughing and twirling her Sai.

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06/09/2005 06:34 PM (UTC)
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chaosruler Wrote:
4 example scorpion can appear from flames comin out of the ground.


I like that, simple but effective (if they have special entrances in MK7, that's what they should be) one of the best concepts I've heard for this topic so far.

tgrant Wrote:
I’ve always wanted special entrances in MK. I think they’d look great and would be like the ones on Soul Calibur, though given the various natures and powers of the MK warriors, you have so much more room for variety.

Here are some of my ideas.

Raiden: A lightning bolt can strike the ground with several more bolts appearing and Raidens body begins to form. We see a violent flicker of electricity in his eyes as he takes his fighters stance.

Jade: Jade can use her MKD teleport to appear in place armed with her staff and this could allow her to begin the round or match in her weapon style. (Such an option could allow for alternate entrances depending on a button press).

Shang Tsung: Shang can walk onto the screen with several souls swirling around his body. He goes to tense his body whilst muttering some ancient words and absorbs the souls. His eyes glow green upon doing this.

Reptile: Reptile can leap into the arena from above whilst invisible. We would see an outline of him. You can hear Reptile hiss whilst he’s sprawled on the ground and then he can leap up and become visible mid air and land in his fighting pose.

Sub-Zero: Sub-Zero can act a little like the Silver Surfer and slide into the arena on an ice track before doing a small show off technique with his ice powers (creating an ice ball or something) and then pose.

Mileena: She can simply do her Teleport Kick into the arena or simply walk in laughing and twirling her Sai.



grin I'm glad you relinquished your mod role, I missed replying to your posts man.

Every one of these ideas are awesome imo, like I said about chaosruler's idea, they aren't too detailed but that's what makes them great - For the longer they are, the more chance they will suck (cus it's more effort for the MK team) and longer ones would get more boring over time than shorter ones. If implemented, they should be kept short and sweet.

Now, I'll add my opinions on your ideas firsttongue

Love the Raiden one, I wouldn't change a thing about it. Well maybe instead of forming via numerous strands of electricty, there would be just one sole large strike of lightning, accompanied by a loud bang, and he would instantly materialize. THEN we see the flicker of electricity in his (very mean looking) eyes...That was always a cool part of Raiden in the 1st movie, and I think it would be awesome in a special entrance in the game. Imagine the electric eyes now that he has those mean red eyes, I think it would be pretty intimidating...

The Jade one is fine the way it is also, I really like the idea of being able to choose which fighting stance you begin your match in...Somehow in her entrance I'd like to see a reminiscence to her MK2/UMK3 days, where before her MKD teleport we see her incredible speed - perhaps we see her running really fast toward the fighting area, then from a large distance she materializes through her teleport into her fighting stance.

The Shang concept is probably my favourite. I love the fact that he has souls swirling around him, and he consumes them to gain strengh before the fight. How I'd do it though, is he floats in to the arena very slowly in his old man form (like his MK1 days). Then when in position to fight, he begins to consume the souls, and we see him grow stronger and younger before the fight beings...

Having Reptile come in invisible is fantastic too. The way I would like it would be the way you have it, but we hear him scurrying into position, perhaps the same sounds as his MK4 crawl move, THEN we hear him hiss and leap into his fighting stance. And the way I envision him invisible is like in the 1st MK movie, where he is kind of distorted from the background, invisible, yet not quite blending in. Then he turns visible and visciously hisses at his opponent, mouth wide open and his fangs showing.

For Sub Zero, The slide is a good idea, but I'd like to see more first. The way I'd have Sub Zero enter, is at first we cannot see him, then we see a shower of ice rain down infront of the opponent. A clone of the opponent forms, and then out of nowhere a large icicle (again, like the one Liu Kang kills Sub Zero with in the 1st MK movie) flies through the air and impales the clone of the opponent, an intimidation technique, so the enemy sees a vision of their own death before the fight begins. Then Sub Zero could slide into position, with his arms outstreched (kinda like how Ermac looks in MKD when he levitates).

Mileena, I'd have do her roll continously across the arena floor, before sprining up into her fighting stance when in position.
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Now for mine tongue:

Kung Lao:

Again, he is out of sight, and all of a sudden (like in his MK: Gold ending) his hat flies across the screen (with that cool noise it makes) and makes a slight cut on the opponents face or chest.
Then we see him run at full speed towards the opponent, jump up and somersault half way there, then dive kick out of the somersault into position. As soon as he lands on the ground from the dive kick, we see him doing revolutions in his old spin move which slowly decrease in speed, and ends with him finishing a revolution facing the opponent.

Cyrax:

Throws out a near and far bomb simultaneously, then does his old MK3 teleport in between both bombs. He stands in his MK3 victory pose whilst the two bombs explode around him.

Sektor:

We see a red target appear on the opponents chest, then the camera switches to Sektor (who is far away at the end of the arena) he fires a homing missle, then teleport uppercuts into position. He turns at the last minute and fires his flamethrower (the one from his MK3 fatality) and the missle explodes. Finaly he turns back and in his cybernetic voice says "Death is the only way out" (ala Cyrax in MKA).

Liu Kang:

Should either walk up to the confrontation, then perform a kata perhaps in a meditative state. Or maybe he could filp and somersault his way into position, finishing with his MK1 cartwheel.

Kabal:

From far distance he could begin by letting off a ground saw, then tornado dashing across the screen, outrunning the saw. At the right time he fires his fireball into the ground, just as the saw is reaching him. The blast sends the saw into the air and he catches it, puts it back into wherever he keeps it, and turns to face his opponent.

Ermac:

Perhaps we see many souls fly in from all corners of the arena (like Shang Tsung's palace in MKDA) and they combine to form Ermac.

Smoke:

If he returns in his etheral form, then we should see smoke travel across the ground towards the opponent which then materializes into Smoke. If he is a cybernetic ninja, then he could be invisible, and we see a ring of smoke moving towards the opponent, then he appears visible and gets into his fighting stance.

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So that'll do for now, I will probably add more later. Only problem I find with mine, is that they all start with the opponent already in the arena...ah wellgrin
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06/09/2005 07:23 PM (UTC)
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grin I'm glad you relinquished your mod role, I missed replying to your posts man.



Lol! Well, you'll have to reply whilst you can! wink

Nice additions to my ideas, though I would;'t change Raidens. Having him just appear imo is boring. Think back to the MK1 movie where he appears on Shang Tsungs boat and all the electrical energy is falling into itself forming his body. that's how I'd love his entrance to be. It's still one of the best entrances ever in a film I have ever seen!

And having Shang become younger is awesome.

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Now for mine tongue:

Kung Lao:

Again, he is out of sight, and all of a sudden (like in his MK: Gold ending) his hat flies across the screen (with that cool noise it makes) and makes a slight cut on the opponents face or chest.
Then we see him run at full speed towards the opponent, jump up and somersault half way there, then dive kick out of the somersault into position. As soon as he lands on the ground from the dive kick, we see him doing revolutions in his old spin move which slowly decrease in speed, and ends with him finishing a revolution facing the opponent.



This one I love, however I would have the hat thrown into the around and fly past the opponent. It'll act like a bommerang (it can as it did in MKGold) and come back on their other side. As it does, Lao jumps into the arena grabs the hat out of the hair and does a mini spin as he places the hat on his head. He stops stood in a pose reminiscent of his MK2 win pose. At this point he's glaring at the opponent with a cheeky grin on his face!

Hope you like it! wink
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06/10/2005 03:08 AM (UTC)
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tgrant Wrote:
Lol! Well, you'll have to reply whilst you can! wink

Nice additions to my ideas, though I would;'t change Raidens. Having him just appear imo is boring. Think back to the MK1 movie where he appears on Shang Tsungs boat and all the electrical energy is falling into itself forming his body. that's how I'd love his entrance to be. It's still one of the best entrances ever in a film I have ever seen!

And having Shang become younger is awesome.

This one I love, however I would have the hat thrown into the around and fly past the opponent. It'll act like a bommerang (it can as it did in MKGold) and come back on their other side. As it does, Lao jumps into the arena grabs the hat out of the hair and does a mini spin as he places the hat on his head. He stops stood in a pose reminiscent of his MK2 win pose. At this point he's glaring at the opponent with a cheeky grin on his face!

Hope you like it! wink


Damn, I thought you'd be going for that Champion rank...tongue

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Now for Raiden's, what I meant was - there is one large lighting strike which hits the ground with a lound bang, and from that he materializes, then the camera pans up and we see his electro eyestongue
But actualy, I really like the way he shows up in the movie, yes that's coolergrin

(I also thought Shang getting younger after consuming the souls was cool)

And I'm glad you like the Kung Lao one, but your idea combined with my concept is fuckin awesome bro! Cus I wanted the hat to boomerang too (I guess I didn't make that clear) and to have him catch it and put it on mid air! That's just crazy. I'd like to see him do that whilst somersaulting, then dive kick into his spin shield - THEN like you said - finish in his sick MK2 pose...Man, why don't the MK team read stuff like this?tongue

It's just cool.
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06/10/2005 06:24 AM (UTC)
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And I'm glad you like the Kung Lao one, but your idea combined with my concept is fuckin awesome bro! Cus I wanted the hat to boomerang too (I guess I didn't make that clear) and to have him catch it and put it on mid air! That's just crazy. I'd like to see him do that whilst somersaulting, then dive kick into his spin shield - THEN like you said - finish in his sick MK2 pose...Man, why don't the MK team read stuff like this?tongue

It's just cool.


They probably do. We just pwn them too much! winktongue

And just to finish Laos pose of, if he's in nicely lit area, we should see a nice glint of light running along the rin of the hat. grin
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06/10/2005 12:53 PM (UTC)
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Nice! I liked the idea a lot.

Someone said that the characters entrance will be from a door. That I’d really like to see, each character enters sequentially from the same door (for example, starting with Scorpion...) where the narrator mentions his / her name and the character starts doing for few seconds some of his / her moves on the arena as a summary of what he / she would look like during the fight and he / she leaves the arena when it comes to another character turn.
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06/10/2005 05:13 PM (UTC)
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Yeah, they need something such as the Tekken series has. Something short and simple. A better example would be from Tag Tournament, such as Nina bitch slapping Anna. Or Heihachi spanking Lee... grin LOL.
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06/11/2005 03:09 AM (UTC)
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I hate genaric "special" entrances for the sake of having them. However i like entrances that express rivalries.

Sub Zero vs Scorpion: (yes i know im beating a dead horse) They walk onto the arene, exchange words, then they shoot fire and ice at each other, wich explodes when the blasts hit each other. Then they break into one of those scenes where they are punching and kicking at each other, but they keep blocking/parrying/dodging. Just like in kung-fu movies just before the evil guy sais somthing like "It seems that this fight is a draw" just before doing somthing evil, like having someone kiddnap his sister. But instead of saying that, it should read: Sub Zero: "It appears we are too evenly matched..." Scorpion: "...and this should be decided in..." Announcer: "MORTAL KOMBAT!!!" But the movie way, that voice was better than the "round _ fight" voice.
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06/11/2005 04:26 AM (UTC)
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Sub-Zero:
It should start with a light snow fall around the opponent, then it snows even harder and then with a gust of wind Sub-Zero enters into the arena. Or the opponent can begin to see his/her breath infront of them because of the sudden drop in temperature, then an icicle comes up from the ground with Sub-Zero erupting from the inside.

Kenshi:
Kenshi sits on the ground with his legs crossed then rises as he takes out his katana. He does a vertical slash, then a horizontal slash sliding his hand across the blade. He lowers his blade and you can see his eyes glowing with telekentic power from behind the blind fold.

Raiden:
A bolt of lightning comes down hitting the ground. Then a second one follow shortly after, followed by a third. The bolts don't fade however, as they keep striking the ground, and start to rise off the ground forming Raiden's body as they rise.

Sektor:
Two missles fly past the opponent and explode infront of them, creating a wall of fire. Suddenly you can hear hydraulics as Sektor walks through the flames with his eyes glowing red and chest plate closing.

Reptile:
Reptile enters the fight completely invisible. He then opens his eyes, revealing thw two glowing slits in his head. He then steps forward, almost like from a curtain, revealing himself.

Kano:
Kano comes in juggling his butterfly knives. He tosses them high into the air before quickly catching them and putting them in their holsters on his boots. As he stands back up his eye glows.

Scorpion:
Scorpion warps into the stage from high above, preforming a front flip before landing in a kneeling position with a ring of fire forming around him.
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06/11/2005 09:28 AM (UTC)
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that sounds tight. i think that they can have ermac fly in with with a green energy aura and hado energy in his hands. Or they noob saibot move through the ceiling and come down and do his pose. sounds good
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06/11/2005 09:28 PM (UTC)
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you know after seeing these time and time again they will get stale. it would get tird slower if there is a different entrence for each pair of kombatants.
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06/13/2005 06:26 PM (UTC)
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tgrant Wrote:

They probably do. We just pwn them too much! winktongue

And just to finish Laos pose of, if he's in nicely lit area, we should see a nice glint of light running along the rin of the hat. grin


Yeah, I'd love too see the light run round the rim of his razor hat, it would be the perfect finish to such a cool conceptwink Actualy that idea would make an amazing entrance for Kung Lao in MK: Devastation, seeing as how he wasn't in either MK1 or MKA, he needs a sick entrance in MK3...

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Sub-Zero:
It should start with a light snow fall around the opponent, then it snows even harder and then with a gust of wind Sub-Zero enters into the arena. Or the opponent can begin to see his/her breath infront of them because of the sudden drop in temperature, then an icicle comes up from the ground with Sub-Zero erupting from the inside.

Kenshi:
Kenshi sits on the ground with his legs crossed then rises as he takes out his katana. He does a vertical slash, then a horizontal slash sliding his hand across the blade. He lowers his blade and you can see his eyes glowing with telekentic power from behind the blind fold.

Raiden:
A bolt of lightning comes down hitting the ground. Then a second one follow shortly after, followed by a third. The bolts don't fade however, as they keep striking the ground, and start to rise off the ground forming Raiden's body as they rise.

Sektor:
Two missles fly past the opponent and explode infront of them, creating a wall of fire. Suddenly you can hear hydraulics as Sektor walks through the flames with his eyes glowing red and chest plate closing.

Reptile:
Reptile enters the fight completely invisible. He then opens his eyes, revealing thw two glowing slits in his head. He then steps forward, almost like from a curtain, revealing himself.

Kano:
Kano comes in juggling his butterfly knives. He tosses them high into the air before quickly catching them and putting them in their holsters on his boots. As he stands back up his eye glows.

Scorpion:
Scorpion warps into the stage from high above, preforming a front flip before landing in a kneeling position with a ring of fire forming around him.


I like these, very nice. Reptile's and Scorpion's are great, but my fave has to be the Sub Zero one. I can perfectly envision the light snowfall that turns into a snowstorm getting stronger and stronger as Sub Zero approaches his fighting position. It would be ideal for his own personal stage (like the Lin Kuei temple in MKDA) and I'd love to see the snowfall in the arena affected by how Sub Zero is fairing in the fight. If he has the upperhand, and is winning easily, then the snowfall is extreme (you know, cus his power is amplifying the dragon amulet's effects), if he is losing the snowfall is very light...
I love all the ideas they are all great.The way yall detail it is awesome. I might not be able to do it as good as yours but here it is:

scorpion:
a beam of fire comes down and you see scorpions figure. The fire slowly goes away from the top and the bottom it stops on scorpions head wich is just his skull when it is done his skull is flaming and you see flames light up in his eyes.He then puts his mask on and gets into his stance.

kabal:
you see kabal just walk in but then he takes his mask off showing his scars and the opponent kinda stumbles back in horor.He puts his mask back on and brings out his hookswords and the fight begins.

baraka:
from out of view you see barakas metal shard go and hit the ground and that temperaroly blinds the opponent when he comes back to his senses you see baraka and a horde of tarkatans around him he motions them to leave and he puts his blades in and goes into stance.

nightwolf:
you see nightwolf walk in but he looks kind of young and weak then he chants something and a green ghost walks up to him and nightwolf absorbs him turning him into the one we know now.then he gets into his stance.

Tell me what you think.oh and by the way i need some guys for my buddy list help me out.smile
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