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So who are these people?
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posted04/22/2015 05:24 PM (UTC)by
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TupacsSon
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https://i.imgur.com/SeNrztF.jpg

First three are Liu Kang, Kung Lao and Great Kung Lao. Who are the others? 4th looks like Johnny but tattoos don't match. 5th could be Subzero's father, he looks too old to be Bi Han. I don't know if the 6th is supposed to be Kenshi's wife or mum or what. It'd be pretty stupid writing if ALL his ancestors were blind!!!
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 •04/20/2015 07:26 PM (UTC) •
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It's hard to tell. I'd say old man in blue is Lin Kuei Grandmaster but he is Sektor's factor and not really known to have ice abilities.

The army guy does feel like Johnny Cage, but yeah, tattoos don't match.

The blind woman is weird. Maybe everyone who finds the sword is blinded by it?

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 •04/20/2015 07:33 PM (UTC) •
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What is this? Fan art?
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 •04/20/2015 07:38 PM (UTC) •
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It's in the krypt. They're the portraits from the hall Kung Jin steals the statue from inside the Sky Temple.
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 •04/20/2015 09:27 PM (UTC) •
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I wonder if the "Mystery characters", particularly the blindfolded woman, are a hint at the future game.
It is kind of weird, because that room seems like it has portraits of historically significant people, such as Liu Kang, Kung Lao, the Great Kung Lao, so it's kinda weird that there's just be a bunch of others who kind of resemble the characters, but not really. I mean, the woman is basically a Ken-She.

But maybe they're just for fun/speculation. I'm wondering if the portraits may simply represent those who have some significant meaning to Raiden. The Lin Kuei guy could easily be someone from centuries past.
But yeah, it is weird that they'd have such close but no cigar resemblance to already existing characters.
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 •04/20/2015 09:35 PM (UTC) •
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I would be all for a Ken-She.

As for the bold Lin Kuei guy with an Ice ball, I think that's Subby's father or at the very least Subby is a descendant of that guy.

The guy with the glasses give me the Guile(From Street fighter) vibe for some reason, I doubt it's Johnny Cage, maybe Johnny Cage is a descendant of that guy.

Who knows, but it's very interesting.
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 •04/20/2015 09:52 PM (UTC) •
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So are the Sub-Zeros, the Takashis, and the Cages also related? Military Man looks too modern compared to the rest.
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•04/20/2015 10:07 PM (UTC) •
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Maybe the military man it's Sonya Blade's deceased father... but then, I remember that MK tournaments are every 50 years, not 25 years, so her father can't compete in a MK Tournament.

And the Lin Kuei dude is also the same statue in LK's stage, so clearly it's a Sub-Zero I-II-III, maybe too old to be Sub-Zero IV.

And with "telepathy it's a lineage gift", probably the Ken-She it's a Takahashi.
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 •04/20/2015 10:30 PM (UTC) •
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Whoever illustrated the first three headshots clearly had no idea how to properly draw Asian faces. Liu looks goofy and the Kung Laos look black.

Not only is that not Johnny Cage, but he's too scrawny-looking, plus Cage has no reason to wear straight-up military fatigues.
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 •04/20/2015 11:09 PM (UTC) •
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SwingBatta Wrote:
Whoever illustrated the first three headshots clearly had no idea how to properly draw Asian faces. Liu looks goofy and the Kung Laos look black.

Not only is that not Johnny Cage, but he's too scrawny-looking, plus Cage has no reason to wear straight-up military fatigues.

I'm not arguing that it is cage (although the presence of the sunglasses is pretty much B-Line), but to be fair, he is a part of a military organization now, technically, so that could explain the fatigues. But yeah not the tattoos.

By the way, are we sure that none of that is fan art? I mean, the Sunglasses guy and the Ken-She look like they could easily be fan art, and if they were, who's to say NRS wouldn't put something they liked in the game. Just wondering, no one has seen these around the web at all?
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 •04/21/2015 12:17 AM (UTC) •
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It says in the concept art notes that they're ancestors of Johnny Cage and Kenshi.
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 •04/21/2015 01:34 AM (UTC) •
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redman Wrote:
It says in the concept art notes that they're ancestors of Johnny Cage and Kenshi.


Oh, well there you go, I guess. Maybe Cage's father fought in Mortal Kombat, who knows? And the war tattoos would support that theory, since it would be during or around the time of World War 2, which is roughly 50 years before MK1, assuming it's still supposed to be happening in 1992. Or grandfather. I said father because my own grandfather was in WWII, but he was like 19 at the time, so if this guy was a higher up, he could've been 40, and then had JC's father around that time, (or even before then), and then JC would've been born in 1963. Seems plausible. And if he died in Mortal Kombat, then there'd be no way JC or his father would've found out about the tournament at all. Or I'm just reading too deeply into it.
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 •04/21/2015 02:07 AM (UTC) •
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Maybe Kenshi's female ancestor wasn't actually blind, but rather purposely impeded her own sight to test her skills?

That Great Kung Lao is just a bald Liu Kang...not sure how I feel about that. Even a yellow headband or something would have differentiated him enough to really pique my interest.

I don't own the game yet, but is there other stuff like this in the Krypt?
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 •04/21/2015 02:21 AM (UTC) •
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swampcrash_unknown Wrote:
Maybe Kenshi's female ancestor wasn't actually blind, but rather purposely impeded her own sight to test her skills?

That Great Kung Lao is just a bald Liu Kang...not sure how I feel about that. Even a yellow headband or something would have differentiated him enough to really pique my interest.

I don't own the game yet, but is there other stuff like this in the Krypt?


Still, it's just such a B-Line way of telling us that she's related to Kenshi. Same with Cage ancestor and his goggles.

As for the Great Kung Lao, I'm actually glad they haven't tampered with his original look. If anything, Liu Kang was the one who ripped off Kung Lao, by wearing the red headband.

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/mkwikia/images/0/07/Greatkunglaovsgoro.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110115200658
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 •04/21/2015 02:25 AM (UTC) •
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Well, yeah, even in MK9, the look is still consistent.

I do wish he was at least playable. I wonder if there's a picture of Takeda (founder of the Shirai Ryu) anywhere to be found. The Krypt sounds like a lore goldmine.
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 •04/21/2015 03:27 AM (UTC) •
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I forget as it's been years since Deadly Alliance...

I know Kenshi was blinded when he got Sento... something about his ancestors... Shang Tsung... some sort of trap. But he wasn't always blind.

Was it the sword that blinded him, or something Tsung did?

I mean, if the blindness was a result of a curse on the sword or something, it could conceivably make sense (and be less stupid) that one of Kenshi's ancestors was also blind... as I think the sword was supposed to belong to his ancestors wasn't it? (I think?)

Like I said... my memory on the whole thing is fuzzy. But I'm trying to have this make more sense than, "Kenshi comes from a long line of stupid people who blinded themselves."
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 •04/21/2015 12:03 PM (UTC) •
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According to his bio in MKDA, it was the act of releasing those souls from their tomb that caused his blindness. Shang Tsung merely tricked him into doing it.
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 •04/21/2015 12:45 PM (UTC) •
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Takahashi Takeda if from Takeda's mother, It's not Kenshi's family name
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 •04/21/2015 01:30 PM (UTC) •
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subzert Wrote:
Takahashi Takeda if from Takeda's mother, It's not Kenshi's family name


Did anyone really dispute that? O_o
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 •04/21/2015 02:51 PM (UTC) •
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They did say other stuff from the Kollective would be included in the game, right? Maybe it's just fan art.
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 •04/21/2015 03:12 PM (UTC) •
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About the military guy, I thought it would be Sonya's ancestor because of the "USA rar rar rar!!" vibe from his tattoos and Johnny having mediterranean ancestry, but if it's stated then I guess the mediterranean thing gos way back in time and it also makes sense that his ancestor fought in a tournament given how their family clan breed champions for the gods.
The bald guy looks like the statue at Lin Kuei's temple. Could be one of Sub-Zero's ancestors, though I didn't know his family was that high ranked (Sektor's father was the clan leader during the first 2 games).
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subzert Wrote:
Takahashi Takeda if from Takeda's mother, It's not Kenshi's family name


Did anyone really dispute that? O_o


I have to check but I think his ingame bio states that the full name is Takahashi Kenshi, not only revealing that Takahashi is indeed the family name, but also that Kenshi is his name instead of his codename (which is weird). EDIT: It's indeed Takahashi Kenshi.
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 •04/21/2015 03:39 PM (UTC) •
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The paintings of the people in Raiden's temple are presumbaly Earthrealm warriors close to Raiden:

Kung Lao

Liu Kang

Art.* Although he has never been referenced in the canon before, MKX's banter suggests the Mortal Kombat Movie is (mostly) canon.

Jean Claude Van Damme. He looks like Johnny Cage, right? They can't officially reference JCVD, but this little homage references the series' inception as a Van Damme tie-in game.

Bi-han, the original Sub Zero. He and Raiden have a history remember. And we've never seen him out of costume, but we can presume he was very old when he died, as his powers and discipline let him live a very long time, but cryomancers still age.

Kenshi's Wife. Presumably, as she is essentially just a female version of Kenshi. *Upon closer inspection, Liu Kang and the third painting have the exact same face. Is this supposed to be Liu Kang's brother? As far as I know, this is another movie-only reference.
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 •04/21/2015 04:39 PM (UTC) •
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SJWMegatron Wrote:
The paintings of the people in Raiden's temple are presumbaly Earthrealm warriors close to Raiden:

Kung Lao

Liu Kang

Art.* Although he has never been referenced in the canon before, MKX's banter suggests the Mortal Kombat Movie is (mostly) canon.

Jean Claude Van Damme. He looks like Johnny Cage, right? They can't officially reference JCVD, but this little homage references the series' inception as a Van Damme tie-in game.

Bi-han, the original Sub Zero. He and Raiden have a history remember. And we've never seen him out of costume, but we can presume he was very old when he died, as his powers and discipline let him live a very long time, but cryomancers still age.

Kenshi's Wife. Presumably, as she is essentially just a female version of Kenshi.

*Upon closer inspection, Liu Kang and the third painting have the exact same face. Is this supposed to be Liu Kang's brother? As far as I know, this is another movie-only reference.


I mean this with the utmost sensitivity in mind: nothing you said is correct.
Did you read the thread?
Bald guy looks like the Wastelands statue.

Kenshi was blinded when the souls were released.

At first, I thought Great Kung Lao, and Army guy were generic White Lotus & Special Forces. Army guy could be related to either Johnny or Sonya.

The bald guy is too old to be Bi-Han, iirc, Kuai Lang is almost the same age, if they aren`t twins...



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