Ugh, Jax again? I like Jacqui, but don't care for him. Kill him off and put Rain in there >.>

I would say it's a combination of both, and like others have said the ability to play as a bad guy or two in the Story Mode really wouldn't hurt. I'm with you on the point about the writers' perceived laziness being a factor in the bad guys looking like nothing more than generic lackeys. The casual player, experiencing the story mode without having extensive knowledge of the lore (like most of us here), will not care if Reptile, Baraka, Sheeva, or Ermac gets killed off. All they know about those characters is that you beat them all the time. Nothing about them is explored, we're never shown their motivation for being there, etc.

I wasn't trying to say that the idea of chapter-based storytelling sucks; I was attributing the punching bag baddies as the reason why it sucked in the last game. There was little to no effort put into making it seem like the villains we beat up were actual threats. However, if they allow themselves to fall into the same general pattern within chapters that was shown last time, then clearly the chapter system is not what's best for NRS. They haven't yet shown that they can effectively utilize this model to tell a cohesive story.

Jax looks cool. Jacqui looks bleh.

Exactly! Lmao at his desperate attempt at trying to throw the NPCs in there. We're talking ROSTER. Also, Kotal and his gang are all aligned with the Earth warriors so there goes more on the side of light.

The only truly legit "evil" characters are Mileena, Quan Chi, Shinnok, & Goro. They should be no problem for Sonya, Johnny, Kenshi, Raiden, Kitana, Jax, Kung-Lao, the offspring, AND Kotal's group to all take down together.

Lopsided indeed. At least we're getting another villain with Tanya being introduced as DLC and hopefully Tremor is one as well.

What you're feeling right now is THE RAGE!

We have a unintentional callback to the Impale mechanic so when are we getting a RAGE! Variation for someone?

*shakes violently*
The Rage, man. The Rage.

Yeah, I agree. I personally like this idea of a cinematic story-telling mode for MK. I enjoyed it in MK even though it was very annoying seeing them fuck with the lore left and right, I still found it enjoyable to see all the characters we love interact.

But like you said, if they stay on this path and keep making the same mistakes of showing characters who are supposed to be really powerful get beat up just because they are evil, then they probably need to either get fresh ideas like giving the evil guys chapters or at least hand it to someone who would write a story that is consistent with the lore.

I could sit here and tell you about the million things that are wrong with this timeline but I could tell you very few things that are wrong with the original one. Sure the original one had flaws but nothing as major as the things happening here and I believe you are right, it's somewhat the mistake of this chapter system. But I also believe if you get ideas in there and find a way around it, you can make everybody look good.

Here is hoping for some bad guys chapters and here is hoping for evil characters getting the treatment they deserve. You know I like the scene we had with Ermac blowing off Jax's arms in MK9, I think that scene at least showed what Ermac truly is, which is a fucking badass that would never ever lose to some human like Jax. But then they ruined it by having Subby defeat him like 2 minutes later.

A scene which I don't like is the Shao Kahn, Kung Lao neck-snap. They could have easily had Kung Lao try and attack Shao Kahn but fails and dies without any gameplay for the player. The scene could have been like 3 minutes where Kung Lao tries to attack Shao Kahn but fails.

Having Shao Kahn snap Kung Lao's neck from behind showed Shao Kahn is a pussy backstabber which he simply isn't. When I think Shao Kahn I don't think some one afraid of a fight, I think someone looking for a damn worthy fight.

Anyways, I think we can all agree that they need to improve a bit on this system otherwise just remove it because it's fucking up your canon. There ain't no way in hell I would believe Ermac loses to Jacqui or Stryker.

There is especially no way in hell I'm going to believe that Kung Lao alone defeats the deadly alliance, that was the most stupid fight ever. Seriously? So you are telling that Kung Lao could have ended the deadly alliance with just 2 minutes back in MKDA but he didn't?

I can go on and on about this but just to sum up what my thoughts are.

I agree, they need to find a way to fix that or just drop it.

Calling it a desperate attempt to throw in NPC when I clearly said I was talking story, not roster. I even included the armies so that should have been a dead give away. Read next time, please. I also don't see how I was making a "desperate attempt" at anything. I was simply explaining why I don't think the roster is lopsided. I think the roster is fine

LOL at people knowing who is NPC, actually evil or actually good. Have any of you actually played through Story Mode to know if any of the good/bad players turn on their allegiances? Or if they're actually "good" or "bad" aside from what we currently know? Just wait and see before complaining "there's too many good guys".

It's pretty obvious that those unsatisfied with the roster don't see it that way.

Am I the only one getting tired of being told to wait and see?

"You don't know how Jacqui and Jax play so just wait and see"

I waited, I saw and I still wasn't impressed by the trailer. And the trailer is supposed to show the coolest shit they can do, no?

"Just wait until the game is out"/"Just wait until you see story mode"/"Just wait until MK11 then your characters might come back"

And then when it's all said done..

"Oh well it's too late to complain now lol"

Assumed alignments of the characters so far:

Scorpion: Neutral but now that Hanzo is acknowledged, the living personality is arguably good consider his relationship with surrogate son Takeda. He's kind of like the Hulk I guess in that Scorpion takes over when Hanzo is engaged although Hanzo is still not considered human. Neutral in original trilogy and does not protect Kuai Liang in this timeline.
Sub-Zero: Enslaved by Quan Chi(Obviously evil) and the blood curse(Havik runs the 50 Shades of Chaotic Grey.) Otherwise seems to be leaning towards good but I'll consider him neutral at the moment. In original timeline, he became good since 3 and only became good once KOed by Kabal in 2011.
New characters in Team Kotal: Neutral forces. D'Vorah and the odd couple don't seem trustworthy.
Team Cassie: Good for sure
Raiden: Good and doesn't seem to be turning into Dark Raiden after that blood curse.
Kano: Evil
Goro: Neutral but on the side of evil save for some time in the original trilogy when he befriended Kitana.
Quan Chi: Fucking evil
Kung Lao: When not under Onaga or Quan Chi, good for sure.
Kitana: Starts off on the side of evil but doubts about her family history turn her good until Onaga and Quan Chi take possession of her. Since she's playable and part of the in-crowd, she might lean towards good. It has been noted that her intro quotes seem bitchy and it's implied that she doesn't care about the Kahns.
Reptile: The Lizard finally gets a semi Heel-Face-Turn when he's arguably neutral serving evil just because he's an endangered species. At least Kotal would definitely not pop his head like a grape.
Ermac: Constructs have no alignment but once some order is in place, like Kenshi, Ermac became good in the original timeline and seems to be definitely neutral. Depending on the king in him (Jerrod or possibly Shao Kahn,) he could go either way.
Johnny Cage: Good despite being a douche
Sonya: Good despite being a hardass
Mileena: Evil now that she's grown up
Liu Kang: Once cured of Quan Chi, he probably might be neutral due to his new hatred for Raiden while still having Earthrealm' best intentions in place.
Shinnok: E.V.I.L
Jax: Good once cured of Quan Chi
Kenshi: Good, but started off being considered neutral in his debut although that quickly changed

Why hasn't the front page been updated with the English version?

I guess it's my fault for thinking these last few pages would be about the actual fucking trailer instead of another fucking bitch-fest between people who hate the roster and people who like the roster (and its annoying from both sides). Shame on me for thinking this site wouldn't turn a character trailer into a pissing contest between who has the best argument. Then again this is MKO so I shouldn't have expected anything else. Anyway, Jax is great, Jacqui looks interesting, game is looking outstanding but I'd better stop now before people have a go at me for being too positive.

I just want to get the damn game so I can just enjoy it.

There's no such thing as being too positive.

I think the trailer did a poor job of showing the characters. So to me, it is a little unfair to judge them when the trailer didn't show any of the variations or how it affects the way the play.

Objectively speaking, yes, it did a poor job because it showed next to nothing of their movesets. The same could be said about the other two trailers, though, and I don't see as many people bitching about those.

Revenants are skins at best. And a few key word is a few right now a majority of the characters are not evil and 3 armies against the special forces? Your pretty much look at one point of view but not the other. Stop putting in the little tiny minions that u can not play as in for your argument. If the sides really are special what happened to Baraka? Why can't we have a good representation of the evil side. No instead we get a bunch of new special forces.

Roster alignments?

The game is clearly lopsided. 3 evil characters, plus the boss i guess. And Kano, but he doesnt seem to worried about any of the 'good' characters. So he's on the fence. And goro as a bonus dlc.

The Kotal crew, ermac and reptile dont seem to have any 'ill' agenda. So they'll not really evil.

Tanya is a nice addition, hopefully she'll shed some relevance in the story, but i doubt it. Im interested as to what role

Baraka or Rain for Mileena, Sareena for Quan Chi, and Reiko for Shinnok was an easy choice to include to help balance things, but they didnt.

You can't beat HERE'S JOHNNY! oh and Sonya was there too.

The roster is lopsided in terms of: alignment, era and faction representation . Everyone has a right to like or dislike how the roster turned out. However, that doesn't make any of these points any less true because of that.



Is not only that but how this argument conveniently only appears before criticism, yet when the comment are "positive" or mindless praise then it's ok to speculate.

"They are too bland and similar" says the forum that constantly cries out for black Scorpion, wind Raiden and Shao Khan Jr.


P.S. Jax and Jacqui find all your tears delicious.

What in the world are you going on about??? Is no one reading anything I'm saying before replying? I WAS NEVER TALKING ABOUT THE ROSTER TO BEGIN WITH. There, hopefully that's clear enough for anyone else that wants to reply to me in regards of this, lol. The armies are included because they are a part of the STORY and are the THREAT.

Kotal's army is seen fighting the Special Forces. Mileena's army is obviously enemy to Earthrealm and so is the Netherrealm army. So yes, THREE armies are a threat in this story. How are we not getting a good representation of the evil side? Are you saying the evil side is poorly represented simply because we don't get to play as them?

Your complaints against people complaining in every thread are more annoying. At least they're actively discussing something rather than throwing a tantrum that not everybody loves everything about this game.

Chill.

Nevermind. It's not worth it.