How different offsprings should be from their parents?
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posted12/25/2014 04:42 PM (UTC)by
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DG1OA
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Whether we get any new offsprings other than Cassie (and possibly Kotal) or not, the question is, if we do get anymore, should they be similar to their parents, if not exactly like them, or be entirely their own characters, or a little of both?

Cassie has been done right so far, as there are very few moves she shares with either of her parents (as well as other characters she shares moves with like Stryker and Sektor). Her personality is more similar to Johnny's than Sonya's, but that alone doesn't make her exactly like him, as her humor also differs from his (chewing gum isn't Johnny's thing).

In short they didn't go overboard with her being two other characters' daughter, and I hope the same will be true of her story, and any other offsprings.

If Kotal has any biological connection to Shao, then they've done a superb job making him his own man. All he really has in common with Shao is the Kahn name/title, and the lust for power.

For all the mistakes NRS made, offsprings/family members so far aren't one of them. Before Cassie, we had Kitana's mother, who was very much her own woman. I'd be much more scared if it were fans handling that concept.
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Minchken
12/22/2014 10:15 PM (UTC)
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What does chewing gum have anything to do with humor? And chewing gum isn't johnny's thing? It's not like that you have to have a particular lifestyle to chew gum, it isn't a hobby at all.

You can't really call those major differences between characters by that flawed analysis.
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Icebaby
12/22/2014 10:21 PM (UTC)
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It was said a while ago that Kahn is just a title. Kotal has no relations to Shao at all.
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Blade4693
12/22/2014 10:23 PM (UTC)
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Different enough that they aren't labeled as clones. I think Cassie is a pretty good example, she isn't a blatant rip-off IMO. She has some of their moves, she's a little cocky, cracks jokes, so she definitely seems like what Johnny and Sonya's offspring would be like, or at least to me.
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12/22/2014 10:59 PM (UTC)
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To be simple with this topic. All of them should have different move sets and abilities that doesn't even resemble their parents.wink
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SwingBatta
12/23/2014 01:18 AM (UTC)
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They should be absolutely nothing like their predecessors aside from a small trait here and there.

I suppose Violet Beauregarde--er, Cassie's gum chewing is NRS' way of showing a hint of her old man's cockiness. I mean, the guy fought with sunglasses on.
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12/23/2014 02:39 AM (UTC)
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We might get a Kitana Liu Kang offspring for sure.
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Icebaby
12/23/2014 02:43 AM (UTC)
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OhYesMar$h Wrote:
We might get a Kitana Liu Kang offspring for sure.


How exactly would that work when:

1.) During 2011's story they were lightly flirting with each other, neither saying they're in love with one another

2.) Neither of them were together long enough to make whoopy before their deaths.

3.) They're dead

4.) We don't even know what would happen to them during story mode.

5.) I highly doubt the first thing Liu and Kitana would do immediately upon being resurrected is having sex with one another.



Just asking. smile
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12/23/2014 05:10 AM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
OhYesMar$h Wrote:
We might get a Kitana Liu Kang offspring for sure.


How exactly would that work when:

1.) During 2011's story they were lightly flirting with each other, neither saying they're in love with one another

2.) Neither of them were together long enough to make whoopy before their deaths.


There were a couple of chapters (I believe it's Stryker and Kabal) you play before Kitana and Liu re-enter the picture. Just throwing that out there. tongue
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12/23/2014 08:30 AM (UTC)
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OhYesMar$h Wrote:
We might get a Kitana Liu Kang offspring for sure.


I hope not,.
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Zero_Jade
12/23/2014 11:34 AM (UTC)
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unleash_your_tounge Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
OhYesMar$h Wrote:
We might get a Kitana Liu Kang offspring for sure.


How exactly would that work when:

1.) During 2011's story they were lightly flirting with each other, neither saying they're in love with one another

2.) Neither of them were together long enough to make whoopy before their deaths.


There were a couple of chapters (I believe it's Stryker and Kabal) you play before Kitana and Liu re-enter the picture. Just throwing that out there. tongue


Not really enough time for her to give birth to a child though ;).
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KungLaodoesntsuck
12/23/2014 01:48 PM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
OhYesMar$h Wrote:
We might get a Kitana Liu Kang offspring for sure.


How exactly would that work when:

1.) During 2011's story they were lightly flirting with each other, neither saying they're in love with one another

2.) Neither of them were together long enough to make whoopy before their deaths.

3.) They're dead

4.) We don't even know what would happen to them during story mode.

5.) I highly doubt the first thing Liu and Kitana would do immediately upon being resurrected is having sex with one another.



Just asking. smile


25 years is a long time. Anything could happen between that time. Just saying.
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Gouki
12/23/2014 03:16 PM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
OhYesMar$h Wrote:
We might get a Kitana Liu Kang offspring for sure.


How exactly would that work when:

1.) During 2011's story they were lightly flirting with each other, neither saying they're in love with one another

2.) Neither of them were together long enough to make whoopy before their deaths.

3.) They're dead

4.) We don't even know what would happen to them during story mode.

5.) I highly doubt the first thing Liu and Kitana would do immediately upon being resurrected is having sex with one another.



Just asking. smile


Interesting points you make, but not enough to throw a 'LiuTana' offspring completely out the gate...

1st point: During 2011's story, Blade could barely stand Cage. No "I love you" passed their lips, no hints, hugs, and kisses of a serious romance to set the stage for their confirmed daughter: Cassie Cage...

2nd point: hmm If I recall, During ONE of the temple scenes in the "MK3" arc of MK9, where all the forces of light were gathered around,
Liu, Kitana...and Jade were nowhere to be found... grin Sure this does not mean they were makin whoopy, but we don't know that for sure...do we...?

3rd: No truer words... sad but we can turn that frown upside down smile because not many people stay that way in this town.

4th: Again, No doubt, but it will be interesting to find out...

5: 25 to be clear, is quite a few years... wink

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12/23/2014 04:01 PM (UTC)
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I'd rather not one of the offspring be from Kitana and Liu Kang. I don't know, I just feel like that would be too "expected", as though Liutana would be one of the first things to pop into people's heads at the mention of offspring being in the game.
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Tazer_Gunshot
12/23/2014 08:09 PM (UTC)
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Mostly just for jokes, but who knows.

Ashrah returns and makes whoopi with Raiden and brings Kid Thunder to life.
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12/23/2014 09:15 PM (UTC)
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By Joe, I think I've got it!

Well, ya know how NRS mentioned Quan Chi using the dead fighters, right? (Rhetorical, of course we all caught that wink) Now say Kitana is one of the fighters Quan decides to use (accept it people, she's one of the top "dead" characters being requested/demanded). Alright so she's now back, even if it's as a revenant.

As for Liu, it's obviously 50/50 whether he's dead or not, but EITHER WAY he's been mentioned, and will likely make an appearance. Now, what side he'll be playing for, I dunno. But regardless, I can almost guarantee once he sees Kitana is back, she'll be a driving point to his new story line. (Yah, there's revenge on Raiden, but that's really a dead end street, now isn't it?)

BAM! There's how they could both pick up where they left off, and give way to some of these descendant theories. As well as provide a fresh narrative for the both of them. (Say he's alive and she's a revenant, imagine the drama that would unfold if being a revenant doesn't automatically make her barren.)
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ReignInBlood1986
12/24/2014 09:25 AM (UTC)
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I don't think we'll ever see a liutana offspring. But Kitana lived for over 10,000 years, maybe somewhere in those 10,000 years she had a baby and it got taken away because "assassins can't have children" or some shiyt like that because, you know, Shao Kahn said no and for so many years Kitana believed her child was tarkatan food...until now.

BOOM!!!- Kitana Jr. is now a thing.
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Grizzle
12/25/2014 04:42 PM (UTC)
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I don't see Liu Kang and Kitana having any offspring at all, and I'm okay with that. The appeal to the Liu Kang and Kitana romance is that it is almost forbidden for both of them to pursue their feelings for each other.

Liu Kang is and has always been the Mortal Kombat champion, that still stands even at the end of MK9. Let's not forget about Liu Kang's shaolin teachings as well. Shaolin monks must adhere to everything regular Chinese Buddhist monks adhere to and more. They are not supposed to have girlfriends, wives, kids, hold office, hoard riches, have sex, drink alcohol, take a life, eat meat, or even recognize their past family. Once you are a monk, you are supposed to leave all your earthly relations, possessions and needs behind. Liu Kang before MK1 had a problem with following that philosophy, so he abandoned the temples and traveled to America, it was during this time where he met Kai. It took Liu Kang time, but he realized his destiny that he was the "Chosen One" and participated in Mortal Kombat, let's not also forget that Liu Kang's actions to leave the temples put a strain in his and Kung Lao's relationship at first. Liu Kang during MK2 when he met Kitana was full of despair because he followed his teachings and spared Shang Tsung's life as a huge insult to the sorcerer, in a tournament that requires you to "Finish" your opponent he won it, and in his victory defied the traditions that Shang Tsung imposed on Mortal Kombat, this ultimately led to his temples being attacked and a lot of his shaolin brothers killed. Kitana couldn't have come at a better time to further complicate his lack of faith as he began to develop feelings for her. And I'm so pissed that none of this was ever covered in the story mode.

Now as for Kitana, her history is one full of tragedy, it's almost Greek like. Her father was a king that was murdered and his throne was usurped. To further conquer Edenia, Shao Kahn took Jerrod's wife Sindel, who was benevolent in nature as his own and made Kitana his own daughter. Shao Kahn influenced the infant Kitana into believing he was her actual father and took great effort into hiding the truth from her. Kahn himself trained her to be a deadly assassin. Sindel couldn't bear the thought of this, and ultimately committed suicide. (Talk about some serious issues.) During Mortal Kombat 2, Kitana started out eager to gain her father's approval in taking out the Earthrealm warriors. However, some event started her down the path on unraveling the truth and lost trust in her father. This was the perfect time for Liu Kang to step in, Kitana at first was an enemy but she would secretly meet with him to give him advice on how to get far in the second tournament. I feel their attraction stems from both of these characters being there during a drastic change in both of their lives. Liu Kang to Kitana is a pure soul, something she has never seen in over her 10,000 years of life. Kitana to Liu Kang is probably one of the most beautiful things he's ever seen, because she's literally from another world and has her mother's benevolence imbedded in her. Liu Kang to Kitana, is a catalyst for change in her life. Once they crossed paths she underwent a series of events that led to the freedom of Edenia and the defeat of Shao Kahn.

Kitana, I know had strong feelings for Liu Kang and offered him an opportunity to be at her side as King of Edenia, but the appeal to this relationship is that they can't be together because their roles are too important. Kitana has to be Queen to her lost people, and Liu Kang has to protect his world as the Champion of Mortal Kombat. It's sad, but it makes the story much richer and actually shows the personality of these characters.
And with that said, if anyone on the writing team at Netherrealm studios can read this.

CAN WE FUCKING SEE THIS IN THE STORY MODE ALREADY!? furious
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