How Did Kano Actually Take the Amulet?
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posted05/16/2015 02:38 PM (UTC)by
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LiL_TaMa
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04/14/2015 06:20 PM (UTC)
The story never actually explained how Kano stole the amulet (through the wardings, S.F., etc.) and replaced it with a dupe, so I wonder what was done.
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Thatoneguy
05/05/2015 02:21 AM (UTC)
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LiL_TaMa Wrote:
The story never actually explained how Kano stole the amulet (through the wardings, S.F., etc.) and replaced it with a dupe, so I wonder what was done.


I thought Quan Chi was responsible in some way.

#IfyouplayedMKMythologiesyouunderstand
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05/05/2015 02:24 AM (UTC)
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Not sure how he did it but I speculate he used his fancy technology to change his outward looks so he could fool the SF. Those guards and wards may have been easy to bypass when he looks like Raiden or Fujin. If he can change into a random woman he can look certainly morph into a recognizable ally like Raiden or Fujin.
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DAEGON1
05/05/2015 12:08 PM (UTC)
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I thought it was Rain.
Anyway it'll probably be explained in the comics, along with Raiden's "strange realms adventure".
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The_TooCool_Master
05/05/2015 01:28 PM (UTC)
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DAEGON1 Wrote:
I thought it was Rain.
Anyway it'll probably be explained in the comics, along with Raiden's "strange realms adventure".


The comic takes place before the 25 years later mark. They won't explain that.

Kano stole it. Raiden mentions it when he tells Bo' Rai Cho he retrieved it and there's a fight intro where Scorpion accuses Kano of stealing the amulet and he says he did.
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daryui
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05/05/2015 04:39 PM (UTC)
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Tremor helped.wink
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SJWMegatron
05/12/2015 04:47 AM (UTC)
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My question about the story mode was "Why did Quan Chi wait for Kano to steal the amulet to carry out his plan, 20 years later? Why didn't he just get his own mercenaries?" and then "What was the thing Quan Chi wanted from the Lin Kuei that he would kill off an entire ninja clan?"

Then I realized those two questions answer each other. Quan Chi exterminated the Shirai Ryu in exchange for the Lin Kuei bringing the Amulet out of Earthrealm. (As Quan Chi cannot enter Earthrealm himself without Raiden knowing.) And that must have been the first in a long line of failed plans of getting the Amulet out of Earthrealm.
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DAEGON1
05/12/2015 04:52 AM (UTC)
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SJWMegatron Wrote:
My question about the story mode was "Why did Quan Chi wait for Kano to steal the amulet to carry out his plan, 20 years later? Why didn't he just get his own mercenaries?" and then "What was the thing Quan Chi wanted from the Lin Kuei that he would kill off an entire ninja clan?"

Then I realized those two questions answer each other. Quan Chi exterminated the Shirai Ryu in exchange for the Lin Kuei bringing the Amulet out of Earthrealm. (As Quan Chi cannot enter Earthrealm himself without Raiden knowing.) And that must have been the first in a long line of failed plans of getting the Amulet out of Earthrealm.


Rain had some involvement as well, at first I thought he was the one who stole it, but now I'm not sure what happened.
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lastfighter89
05/12/2015 05:26 PM (UTC)
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Tremor planted a Trap (or snare as Raiden called it) so it would send Raiden into the strange realms he mentioned. While Raiden was away Kano took the real amulet and put Instead the Fake one (a nod to Quan Chi in the original timeline).

We don't know WHEN Kano stole the talisman, Raiden noticed 20 years later.
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Onaga
05/12/2015 08:08 PM (UTC)
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SJWMegatron Wrote:
My question about the story mode was "Why did Quan Chi wait for Kano to steal the amulet to carry out his plan, 20 years later? Why didn't he just get his own mercenaries?" and then "What was the thing Quan Chi wanted from the Lin Kuei that he would kill off an entire ninja clan?"

Then I realized those two questions answer each other. Quan Chi exterminated the Shirai Ryu in exchange for the Lin Kuei bringing the Amulet out of Earthrealm. (As Quan Chi cannot enter Earthrealm himself without Raiden knowing.) And that must have been the first in a long line of failed plans of getting the Amulet out of Earthrealm.


And yet he had it on his belt throughout the entirety of the last game. Smooth NRS.
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The_TooCool_Master
05/12/2015 08:32 PM (UTC)
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Onaga Wrote:
And yet he had it on his belt throughout the entirety of the last game. Smooth NRS.


Because he had it at this point? Bi-Han retrieved it for him. That's still canon. The fake amulet switcharoo was dropped but this still stands.
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05/12/2015 10:43 PM (UTC)
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Onaga Wrote:
SJWMegatron Wrote:
My question about the story mode was "Why did Quan Chi wait for Kano to steal the amulet to carry out his plan, 20 years later? Why didn't he just get his own mercenaries?" and then "What was the thing Quan Chi wanted from the Lin Kuei that he would kill off an entire ninja clan?"

Then I realized those two questions answer each other. Quan Chi exterminated the Shirai Ryu in exchange for the Lin Kuei bringing the Amulet out of Earthrealm. (As Quan Chi cannot enter Earthrealm himself without Raiden knowing.) And that must have been the first in a long line of failed plans of getting the Amulet out of Earthrealm.


And yet he had it on his belt throughout the entirety of the last game. Smooth NRS.

Well obviously. We're talking about when he was trying to acquire it BEFORE the first Mortal Kombat game. Here is the timeline of the Amulet:

Shinnok is exiled to the Netherealm, and his godhood is bound to an Amulet.

The Amulet is placed in the Temple of Elements and protected by the Earth Gods.

Quan Chi cannot enter Earthrealm without Raiden being alerted, but he strikes a deal with Outworld, who need the Edenian Queen Sindel raised from the dead. In exchange for Quan Chi's assistance. Shang creates a void in space/time on the Island where the Temple of Elements is located, under the guise of using it as a bridge between the realms to be used as the setting for the upcoming Mortal Kombat Tournament.

Quan Chi hires the Lin Kuei to retrieve the amulet, in exchange for exterminating the Shirai Ryu.

Quan Chi also raises Hanzo as his Revenent, gaining his loyalty by telling him the Lin Kuei killed his family.

MK Mythologies takes place. Upon learning Quan Chi raised Scorpion, the Lin Keui recind their deal and take back the Amulet, returning it to Raiden.

But the amulet Bi-han returned with was a fake.



Scorpion kills Bi-han in the Mortal Kombat tournament

Quan Chi turns Bi-han into a Revenant. Because why the fuck not?

Quan Chi ressurrects Shinnok right after the ordeal with Outworld and Earthrealm.

MK4/MKX take place. In the new timeline, Raiden seals Shinnok in his Amulet and is again hidden in some unknown Shaolin location.

It takes Quan Chi 20 years to get the Amulet out of Earthrealm. Likely because of a combination of incompetent minions and the turbulent Outworld political climate. Before Kotal Kahn kills Reiko and usurps Mileena, the plan was likely to get Reiko and D'vorah into Mileena's confidence then lead her to the amulet, and convince her to invade Earthrealm.
(In the original timeline Quan Chi keeps the real amulet, gives Shinnok a fake so Shinnok will be subservient to him. In the new timeline, it is unclear why he never gave Shinnok a fake. Perhaps he did, but trapping Shinnok in the immitation amulet as we supposedly see Raiden do, renders the original amulet powerless.)
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The_TooCool_Master
05/14/2015 01:28 PM (UTC)
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Thank you for that. This was a good reminder for people like me who never played Mythologies.
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Shinomune
05/14/2015 07:32 PM (UTC)
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SJWMegatron Wrote:
MK Mythologies takes place. Upon learning Quan Chi raised Scorpion, the Lin Keui recind their deal and take back the Amulet, returning it to Raiden.
But the amulet Bi-han returned with was a fake.

(In the original timeline Quan Chi keeps the real amulet, gives Shinnok a fake so Shinnok will be subservient to him. In the new timeline, it is unclear why he never gave Shinnok a fake. Perhaps he did, but trapping Shinnok in the immitation amulet as we supposedly see Raiden do, renders the original amulet powerless.)


Sorry, but here there's A LOT of supossing by fans, not real facts.

We know IN MK4 that Quan Chi had the real amulet and created a fake, but NOT when he did the switcharoo.

Why Shinnok didn't invade everything if he was the real amulet since Mythologies? Because he didn't have it.

That's the reason of the scheme in Edenia to escape from NetherRealm. That and the close way to attack the Heavens. Where was Fujin, one of the amulet protectors in Mythologies - and probably the rest of the other gods -. After Mythologies fail, Raiden secured the amulet in a safer place.

That's where Shinnok recovered the amulet, but not before Quan Chi created the fake one for him - and my theory, it's that in that process, Quan Chi nearly killed Reiko -. This makes more sense than Quan Chi already created a fake one in Mythologies, because a) you make Shinnok a fool if he trusted Quan Chi after creating a fake amulet or b) if he didn't know it about the fake amulet, you still need an excuse to recover the "real" amulet to give it to Shinnok, which is overexploiting.

But probably MK9-MKX makes the fake amulet recovered in Mythologies canon, because not only we see a good reason to wait a little before escaping NetherRealm and start to invading realms, but also Quan Chi didn't created extra fake amulets, so Shinnok keeps the real since Mythologies and didn't make him like a dumb leader.

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SJWMegatron
05/15/2015 03:10 AM (UTC)
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"Sorry, but here there's A LOT of supossing by fans, not real facts. "
Uh oh. realfacts time.

"We know IN MK4 that Quan Chi had the real amulet and created a fake, but NOT when he did the switcharoo. "
He switched them sometime in the short window between recieving the Amulet and having it taken back by Bi-han. OR I suppose it's possible Quan Chi just swipped if from Raiden during the tournament. If we're assuming Raiden is totally completely incompetent. Whatever. As we see Quan Chi conversing with the Amulet at the end of MK9's story mode. MK10 took place over 20 years. MK9 took place over a few weeks, and Mythologies is placed immediately before that.

"Why Shinnok didn't invade everything if he was the real amulet since Mythologies? Because he didn't have it. "
I didn't say anything like that. The question was why did it take Quan Chi 20 years to get the Amulet out of Earthrealm? Kano/Rain steal the amulet about 20 years later. We have to assume Quan Chi was trying to get it and failing, over and over during that time.

"That's the reason of the scheme in Edenia(?) to escape from NetherRealm. That and the close way to attack the Heavens(?). Where was Fujin, one of the amulet protectors in Mythologies - and probably the rest of the other gods -. After Mythologies fail, Raiden secured the amulet in a safer place. "
Again. QUAN CHI HAS THE AMULET IN MK9, WHICH IS MK1 though MK3. HE TALKS TO SHINNOK AT NINE'S CLIMAX.

"That's where Shinnok recovered the amulet, but not before Quan Chi created the fake one for him - and my theory, it's that in that process, Quan Chi nearly killed Reiko -. This makes more sense than Quan Chi already created a fake one in Mythologies, because a) you make Shinnok a fool if he trusted Quan Chi after creating a fake amulet or b) if he didn't know it about the fake amulet, you still need an excuse to recover the "real" amulet to give it to Shinnok, which is overexploiting."
You...'re assuming the Fake given to Raiden, and the fake given to Shinnok were the same. Surely he can make more than one fake, right? I mean... Quan Chi is fucking wearing it in MK9 and Raiden doesn't even give a shit.

"But probably MK9-MKX makes the fake amulet recovered in Mythologies canon, because not only we see a good reason to wait a little before escaping NetherRealm and start to invading realms, but also Quan Chi didn't created extra fake amulets, so Shinnok keeps the real since Mythologies and didn't make him like a dumb leader."
My point was the fake doesn't really matter anymore because Quan Chi is fucking dead. What we were wondering is how did Kano end up with the Amulet, and why Quan Chi waited so long. Shortest answer: It just takes a long time to organize stealing an amulet. Especially with Kotal Kahn fucking everything up by hosting a coup and killing Reiko.

So one of two things happened:
1.) For some unforseen reason, in the new timeline, Quan Chi never gave Shinnok a fake amulet, or
2.) The fake was so good, it was able to capture Shinnok and imprison him inside. Quan Chi's just that good at forgery.

But the most important thing: It doesn't matter. Either way, Kano stole the real Amulet, then Quan Chi & Shinnok died, and Dark Raiden currently has the real Amulet.
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SJWMegatron
05/15/2015 06:39 PM (UTC)
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"Because he didn't have the amulet yet."

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Shinomune
05/16/2015 02:38 PM (UTC)
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Yeah, because Quan Chi with the amulet in MK9, in front of EVERYTHING, isn't the greatest blopper in MK videogames saga, right?

Again, people assuming things like real facts. They aren't. MKX fixed one of the most butthurt storylines in previous storyline (incluiding MK9 Quan Chi). Period.
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