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Heres an idea I came up with for what the story on Kotal Kahn might be...
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posted08/08/2014 08:49 PM (UTC)by
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So, I was just thinking about the Kotal Kahn character, reading different comments here about him. The article from the German gaming magazine may or may not have indicated he is Shao Kahn's son. Some think it may have meant he is a successor or heir, not his literal son. The article also seemed to indicate that Kotal Kahn is "Mayan" but most people here(myself included) seriously doubt he is supposed to be an actual Mayan.


While mulling those facts over the following scenario popped into my head: What if Kotal Kahn is not supposed to be an actual Mayan but instead an actual Mayan deity?

The Mayan god of war, Buluc Chabtan:

Looks a lot like our boy, right?

According to legend, Buluc Chabtan was a malevolent god.

What if Kotal Kahn is actually supposed to be the Mayan god of war? Raiden is known by different names to different cultures. What if, with no people to rule over & fear him after the demise of the Mayans, Buluc left Earth to travel the realms in search of a new people to rule? And after many centuries of roaming the realms/heavens, Chabtan is in the right place at the right time when Shao Kahn's demise leaves a power vacuum in Outworld? Maybe the former Earth god becomes Outworld's new god of war and ruler?


Thoughts? I just thought the idea of a god from one realm travelling to another realm and taking over is interesting and it is a way to explain both the Kahn and Mayan connections.
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 •08/08/2014 07:54 PM (UTC) •
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Mayan dieties do not have coporal forms because only in spirit form can they become omnipresent.
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•08/08/2014 08:02 PM (UTC) •
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xysion Wrote:
Mayan dieties do not have coporal forms because only in spirit form can they become omnipresent.


...really? This is a game with robots, vampires, sorcerers, demons etc.

I think it's not too much of a stretch for a Mayan god to have a corporeal form, considering Raiden (obviously) has one.
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 •08/08/2014 08:08 PM (UTC) •
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FerraTorr Wrote:
xysion Wrote:
Mayan dieties do not have coporal forms because only in spirit form can they become omnipresent.


...really? This is a game with robots, vampires, sorcerers, demons etc.

I think it's not too much of a stretch for a Mayan god to have a corporeal form, considering Raiden (obviously) has one.


Raiden is not a Mayan god.
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•08/08/2014 08:13 PM (UTC) •
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xysion Wrote:
FerraTorr Wrote:
xysion Wrote:
Mayan dieties do not have coporal forms because only in spirit form can they become omnipresent.


...really? This is a game with robots, vampires, sorcerers, demons etc.

I think it's not too much of a stretch for a Mayan god to have a corporeal form, considering Raiden (obviously) has one.


Raiden is not a Mayan god.


So? He's a god. WHY can't a Mayan god have a corporeal form? Because YOU say so? Is that something specifically stated in Mayan mythology? If so, A)why then are Mayan gods depicted as corporeal beings and B) can you provide a source for that?

You're being way too overly critical here, dude. This is Mortal Kombat, not an attempt to accurately portray Mesoamerican mythology. Raiden is inspired by Japanese deities.
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•08/08/2014 08:14 PM (UTC) •
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I'm sorry but that is a silly objection. It almost seems like you're trolling or being negative for the sake of it.
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 •08/08/2014 08:17 PM (UTC) •
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xysion Wrote:
FerraTorr Wrote:
xysion Wrote:
Mayan dieties do not have coporal forms because only in spirit form can they become omnipresent.


...really? This is a game with robots, vampires, sorcerers, demons etc.

I think it's not too much of a stretch for a Mayan god to have a corporeal form, considering Raiden (obviously) has one.


Raiden is not a Mayan god.


... Hope all that made you feel SO smart.

Anyways FerraTorr, I think that's a pretty cool idea. Even if it is just a small stretch, it's MK, it's a game, make it cool and give it some good backstory, idc if it's 100% on par with OUR reality. That's why it's a game.

I want to see what Boon has to say about Kotal ourselves, not just some rough translation, should be cool.
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•08/08/2014 08:19 PM (UTC) •
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H3ndrix Wrote:
xysion Wrote:
FerraTorr Wrote:
xysion Wrote:
Mayan dieties do not have coporal forms because only in spirit form can they become omnipresent.


...really? This is a game with robots, vampires, sorcerers, demons etc.

I think it's not too much of a stretch for a Mayan god to have a corporeal form, considering Raiden (obviously) has one.


Raiden is not a Mayan god.


... Hope all that made you feel SO smart.

Anyways FerraTorr, I think that's a pretty cool idea. Even if it is just a small stretch, it's MK, it's a game, make it cool and give it some good backstory, idc if it's 100% on par with OUR reality. That's why it's a game.

I want to see what Boon has to say about Kotal ourselves, not just some rough translation, should be cool.


Thanks, man! And I agree, we need to see/hear his actual words in English about this.
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 •08/08/2014 08:25 PM (UTC) •
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H3ndrix Wrote:
xysion Wrote:
FerraTorr Wrote:
xysion Wrote:
Mayan dieties do not have coporal forms because only in spirit form can they become omnipresent.


...really? This is a game with robots, vampires, sorcerers, demons etc.

I think it's not too much of a stretch for a Mayan god to have a corporeal form, considering Raiden (obviously) has one.


Raiden is not a Mayan god.


... Hope all that made you feel SO smart.

Anyways FerraTorr, I think that's a pretty cool idea. Even if it is just a small stretch, it's MK, it's a game, make it cool and give it some good backstory, idc if it's 100% on par with OUR reality. That's why it's a game.

I want to see what Boon has to say about Kotal ourselves, not just some rough translation, should be cool.


He did say he was the new ruler of Outworld....that's something.
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 •08/08/2014 08:28 PM (UTC) •
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FerraTorr Wrote:
xysion Wrote:
FerraTorr Wrote:
xysion Wrote:
Mayan dieties do not have coporal forms because only in spirit form can they become omnipresent.


...really? This is a game with robots, vampires, sorcerers, demons etc.

I think it's not too much of a stretch for a Mayan god to have a corporeal form, considering Raiden (obviously) has one.


Raiden is not a Mayan god.


So? He's a god. WHY can't a Mayan god have a corporeal form? Because YOU say so? Is that something specifically stated in Mayan mythology? If so, A)why then are Mayan gods depicted as corporeal beings and B) can you provide a source for that?

You're being way too overly critical here, dude. This is Mortal Kombat, not an attempt to accurately portray Mesoamerican mythology. Raiden is inspired by Japanese deities.


Did I say a Mayan god could not? I said Mayan dieties do not have corporal forms. There is a difference.

I am not being overly critical at all. I said one fact and you have a hissy fit.
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 •08/08/2014 08:30 PM (UTC) •
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Darkhound74 Wrote:
H3ndrix Wrote:
xysion Wrote:
FerraTorr Wrote:
xysion Wrote:
Mayan dieties do not have coporal forms because only in spirit form can they become omnipresent.


...really? This is a game with robots, vampires, sorcerers, demons etc.

I think it's not too much of a stretch for a Mayan god to have a corporeal form, considering Raiden (obviously) has one.


Raiden is not a Mayan god.


... Hope all that made you feel SO smart.

Anyways FerraTorr, I think that's a pretty cool idea. Even if it is just a small stretch, it's MK, it's a game, make it cool and give it some good backstory, idc if it's 100% on par with OUR reality. That's why it's a game.

I want to see what Boon has to say about Kotal ourselves, not just some rough translation, should be cool.


He did say he was the new ruler of Outworld....that's something.


For sure and that's killer, but I was meaning about where exactly he is from and what he did before he was the new ruler, and if he is actually Shao's son or not.
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•08/08/2014 08:31 PM (UTC) •
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xysion Wrote:
FerraTorr Wrote:
xysion Wrote:
FerraTorr Wrote:
xysion Wrote:
Mayan dieties do not have coporal forms because only in spirit form can they become omnipresent.


...really? This is a game with robots, vampires, sorcerers, demons etc.

I think it's not too much of a stretch for a Mayan god to have a corporeal form, considering Raiden (obviously) has one.


Raiden is not a Mayan god.


So? He's a god. WHY can't a Mayan god have a corporeal form? Because YOU say so? Is that something specifically stated in Mayan mythology? If so, A)why then are Mayan gods depicted as corporeal beings and B) can you provide a source for that?

You're being way too overly critical here, dude. This is Mortal Kombat, not an attempt to accurately portray Mesoamerican mythology. Raiden is inspired by Japanese deities.


Did I say a Mayan god could not? I said Mayan dieties do not have corporal forms. There is a difference.

I am not being overly critical at all. I said one fact and you have a hissy fit.


You were dismissing my idea...what else was the reason for bringing it up otherwise? You were being argumentative. Okay, so according to you Mayan deities do not have corporeal forms. So what?
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 •08/08/2014 08:35 PM (UTC) •
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Another thing a few other users noticed on here is that his skin is not actually green, but painted on. Some of the high resolution images actually show some of the paint cracking and chipping around his eyes.

Not sure what it means exactly, but it does raise some questions.
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 •08/08/2014 08:41 PM (UTC) •
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U do know that all 3 of his variations have the word "god" in it right? So I think it's pretty darn obvious he is a deity. I also think that he is inspired by the Aztek God Quetzalcoatl (coatl = KotaL)

As for owning 3 different elements (blood, Sun, & war)... My own theory is that he kills other gods and steals their essence. He could be after Raiden & Fujin during the storyline.

Didn't the Mayans disappear mysteriously? I think I remember reading this in high skool. Archeologists can't figure out where they went.... Kuz they went to OutWorld! LoL
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 •08/08/2014 08:49 PM (UTC) •
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0RI0N Wrote:
U do know that all 3 of his variations have the word "god" in it right? So I think it's pretty darn obvious he is a deity. I also think that he is inspired by the Aztek God Quetzalcoatl (coatl = KotaL)

As for owning 3 different elements (blood, Sun, & war)... My own theory is that he kills other gods and steals their essence. He could be after Raiden & Fujin during the storyline.

Didn't the Mayans disappear mysteriously? I think I remember reading this in high skool. Archeologists can't figure out where they went.... Kuz they went to OutWorld! LoL


You're wrong! They could have acquired some alien technology and become astronauts, transporting themselves to Outworld! In other words as Tsoukalos puts it, ALIENS :B
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