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QueenAhnka
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As we all know, nobody ever really dies in MK. They are either resurrected or their entire death is erased and changed to make it seem like they never died I.E Shao Kahn,Goro,Quan Chi. So with Boon saying many character will get killed off, i'm starting to think thats not a good idea. There are lots of characters that are underdogs that do not deserve to be killed off just because they are not popular or are hated for a dumb reason
(Like how people dislike Chamel because he copy's other characters moves, how dumb is that? He and Khamel are SUPOSED to do that).

I think the mk team REALLY needs to sit down and just discuss all the characters before they just kill them off. And i say dont kill off anyone, just keep them on the sidelines incase you need them again.You never know, fans might want to see Moloch in the future.
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04/28/2007 05:39 PM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
I think the mk team REALLY needs to sit down and just discuss all the characters before they just kill them off.


I'm pretty sure that's how it works already.
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04/28/2007 05:59 PM (UTC)
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I hope you're right, because from how Ed seems, it look like they are just killing off characters just to kill them off with no sort of thought.
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04/28/2007 06:33 PM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
I hope you're right, because from how Ed seems, it look like they are just killing off characters just to kill them off with no sort of thought.

Dont you think it's time Mortal Kombat starts over? What if they come up with characters just as good as Scorpion, Sub Zero,Chamaleon, Liu Kang, Jax, etc.
Like I said in a similar thread, if fans don't like all new characters, then MK:9 is always a possibility. MK needs a new start.
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04/28/2007 06:35 PM (UTC)
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When it comes to killing off characters, yes, they definitely need to think things through. They also need to think to themselves what kind of story they are going to create and which characters would best fit in that new story path.

I think it's about time that a lot of characters, such as Goro, Kano, Kobra, and Moloch be gone for good.

I do feel that there are characters who still have potential for future games (e.g. Sareena, Havik, Hotaru) and characters who could use a second chance to finally get some development (e.g. Jade, Rain, possibly Smoke).

I just hope they don't get rid of too many characters.
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04/28/2007 07:19 PM (UTC)
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same thing as Subzerothe7th;there are some characters that needs a second chance,other that deserves to make the cut in future games,other ....MUST DIE!
and BTW,i agree with the idea about NOT killing off all characters,infact the fanboys of the franchise LOVE the actual roster.
I think Ed Boon(and his team) is making a huge mistake,however as someone above me said:
MK9 can be the return of almost all characters.
However i'm sure that we'll see the new developed characters(in terms of storyline) like Blaze,Johnny Cage,Kenshi and Sonya.
Their storyline has been improved a lot and now i think that they're the most observed characters.Some one will return in mk8,and if mk 8 will be a flop,i'm sure that all fan favourites will come back to mk9.
and BTW the "RESTARTING FRANCHISE THING" it's not a good thing....
think a momenbt about Street Fighter 3,all characters disappeared except for Ryu and ken and the aftermath was a half-flop.
However i can be worng,this is just my two cents.
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04/28/2007 07:36 PM (UTC)
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I must agree with the killing off of the characters. i know everyone has their favorites, and I have mine but I want to see something totally new. I want a NEW mortal kombat
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04/28/2007 08:25 PM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
As we all know, nobody ever really dies in MK. They are either resurrected or their entire death is erased and changed to make it seem like they never died I.E Shao Kahn,Goro,Quan Chi. So with Boon saying many character will get killed off, i'm starting to think thats not a good idea. There are lots of characters that are underdogs that do not deserve to be killed off just because they are not popular or are hated for a dumb reason
(Like how people dislike Chamel because he copy's other characters moves, how dumb is that? He and Khamel are SUPOSED to do that).

I think the mk team REALLY needs to sit down and just discuss all the characters before they just kill them off. And i say dont kill off anyone, just keep them on the sidelines incase you need them again.You never know, fans might want to see Moloch in the future.

I completely agree. All current characters could be of some use for the future, if not because fans want them to return, then for to least storytelling purposes. Every current character has added something to the MK universe and especially the MK1 - UMK3 characters who are where most of the legendary characters come from. Meeting or getting to see all the characters in Deception's Konquest was extremely amusing.

I think they should change their mind about killing off most current characters before it's too late. I think it sucks that only Scorpion and Sub-Zero lovers get to see their fav characters make it to next-gen while most other people will have their fav characters become history. That's bullshit. MK has always been a series, where the main characters are always present, but now we're only gonna have a small number of main characters who will return.

I also think killing off most current characters is stupid from a creative point of view cuz lots of the current characters are fantastic. So they're just gonna throw them away like nothing? It's not that easy to come up with highly appealing characters with money-making value like our classics. I'm sure most new characters will not be as charismatic as most of our current cast cuz most new characters from MK4 and after haven't received much admiration.

I'm worried about the future of MK games.
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04/28/2007 09:13 PM (UTC)
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QueenSindel(TheBitch) Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
As we all know, nobody ever really dies in MK. They are either resurrected or their entire death is erased and changed to make it seem like they never died I.E Shao Kahn,Goro,Quan Chi. So with Boon saying many character will get killed off, i'm starting to think thats not a good idea. There are lots of characters that are underdogs that do not deserve to be killed off just because they are not popular or are hated for a dumb reason
(Like how people dislike Chamel because he copy's other characters moves, how dumb is that? He and Khamel are SUPOSED to do that).

I think the mk team REALLY needs to sit down and just discuss all the characters before they just kill them off. And i say dont kill off anyone, just keep them on the sidelines incase you need them again.You never know, fans might want to see Moloch in the future.

I completely agree. All current characters could be of some use for the future, if not because fans want them to return, then for to least storytelling purposes. Every current character has added something to the MK universe and especially the MK1 - UMK3 characters who are where most of the legendary characters come from. Meeting or getting to see all the characters in Deception's Konquest was extremely amusing.

I think they should change their mind about killing off most current characters before it's too late. I think it sucks that only Scorpion and Sub-Zero lovers get to see their fav characters make it to next-gen while most other people will have their fav characters become history. That's bullshit. MK has always been a series, where the main characters are always present, but now we're only gonna have a small number of main characters who will return.

I also think killing off most current characters is stupid from a creative point of view cuz lots of the current characters are fantastic. So they're just gonna throw them away like nothing? It's not that easy to come up with highly appealing characters with money-making value like our classics. I'm sure most new characters will not be as charismatic as most of our current cast cuz most new characters from MK4 and after haven't received much admiration.

I'm worried about the future of MK games.


Queensindel, you rock! Thats the point i'm trying to make. Alot of underdogs like Mavado,Khamel,Chamel,Kira,Ashrah ect. Need some second chances.
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04/28/2007 09:50 PM (UTC)
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Complete termination is necessary.
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04/28/2007 11:42 PM (UTC)
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Chrome Wrote:
Complete termination is necessary.


Yup. Only a very select few stragglers should remain.
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04/29/2007 12:46 AM (UTC)
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Chrome Wrote:
Complete termination is necessary.


No its not, you don't have to kill off everybody to have a new feel, just like how DA didn't kill off anybody to be a revampment. Instead of killing all them off, you can just have them on the sidelines until you need them again. It wouldn't be smart to kill them all off and then go run and do a trilogy 3 and have a hard time trying to exlain certain characters return.
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04/29/2007 02:46 AM (UTC)
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I say kill Chameleon, Khameleon and Meat. The 3 most useless characters EVER.

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04/29/2007 03:02 AM (UTC)
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Umm....to be honest, nobody knows anything about them YET, their bio's will be release soon, then we can judge. What else can you possibly be judging on?
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04/29/2007 03:20 AM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
Umm....to be honest, nobody knows anything about them YET, their bio's will be release soon, then we can judge. What else can you possibly be judging on?


Look dude there pointless, everyone knows it. Chameleon wasnt even an actuall character in MKT, not even a bio storyline etc. Meat was just a secret alternate costume in MK4. Khameleon, yeah she had a "story' but who gives a shit, shes just like Chameleon and that cant mean anything else but bad.

I dont have to judge a character just off there bio.

The fact that we dont know anything about them makes them useless chracters and as you said we dont know anything about them.

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04/29/2007 05:50 AM (UTC)
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Look, i'm not going to sit here and argue with you. Chameleon was a character, if you can play as him, he's a character. Now drop it. I'm getting fed up. LONG LIVE KING AND QUEEN K/CHAMELEON.
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04/29/2007 06:14 AM (UTC)
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nastynate Wrote:
I must agree with the killing off of the characters. i know everyone has their favorites, and I have mine but I want to see something totally new. I want a NEW mortal kombat

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04/29/2007 06:30 AM (UTC)
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Chrome Wrote:
Complete termination is necessary.


That's so funny I can't laugh.
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Anyway, I think Most of the roster needs to go. Maybe not "complete termination"....but absolutely, a vast majority needs to get the hell up outta there...

Turn 65 of them into 10-15, and rebuild from there. While I'm at it, I'd say don't introduce more than 1-2 new characters per game from now on. That way, everybody should be built up nice by the time we have something similar to another one of these "Trillogy" type games.....and there'd be maybe 40-50 characters there instead of the 65.
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04/29/2007 07:34 AM (UTC)
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Lets say they kill off Reptile. A few games later they want or need to bring Reptile back, they are going to have go through figuring how a way to bring him back, and they'll probably use the whole resurrection explantion or retcon his entire death. Now they wouldn't have had to go through all that if they just stoped his story and kept him on the side line instead of killing him off for no reason. Thats what i'm getting to, they don't have to KILL anybody. Theres no point to it. Cause if they plan on doing a trilogy 3 waaaaaaaaaaaay on down the line then they are going to have to go through the trouble of bringing the characters they kill off for mk8 back. And i don't want a repeat of this genereation, i don't want MK9 to take away all the newness MK8 gave it just because of bringing back past characters, like how DA had a great new story and characters, that was runined by deception because deception brought back too many classics all at once.
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04/29/2007 07:42 AM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
Look, i'm not going to sit here and argue with you. Chameleon was a character, if you can play as him, he's a character. Now drop it. I'm getting fed up. LONG LIVE KING AND QUEEN K/CHAMELEON.


Dude wtf?? King and queen?
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04/29/2007 10:50 AM (UTC)
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Let us get something straight: What is the point of Mortal kombat if the nominatory title is trampled in the dirt when noone ever dies? The whole point of their conflict is pretty much pointless if every fucker somehow evades death.

This is not Dallas, or the Care Bears, this should be mortal kombat. Warfa-re does not distinguish between innocent and guilty, sometimes, oh, and
-ding din ding- MOST OF THE TIMES people die as COLATERAL DAMAGE despite their importance.

75% percent of the roster are one- or two-shots or served their purpose. If people would start being overobsessive over certain characters who mira-culously defy death because their importance ( a.k.a. Scorpion has NO RELEVANCE to the actual outcome of the whole mess, despite being a flagship character), then MK could be something again. Right now, it is nothing.

90% of the cast are ripoffs, that may have worked in the G.I. JOE era of computer / video games characters, but right now Spawn ripoffs, stereoty-pical muscle-negroes (no disrespect), chinese Wu Ching cook, martial ar-tists mean little than horseshit, .... a new archetypical occurence is taking place, check the protagonists of other games (perchance the character in Bioshock who has to murder kids, or the quintessential sadistic Caleb from the already old Blood series, or the straightforward unquestionably solid positive heroes who have no moral qualms as zealots...no more internally struggling adolescents like in FF).

Either destroy them, or let MK rot. From another point of view it matters little
as MK will not survive another decade, of that I am assured. If yes, then it would mean little.

I do not want to see transparent genetic rejects as add-ons disappear, I want confirmation that Shao Kahn and crew, majority of the ninjas and the halfheartedly god-awful lobotomized imbeciles like Sektor, Kai, Reiko, Sindel and so on are CONFIRMED DEAD? ENTANGLED IN THEIR OWN INTESTINES BURNING IN A CHARRED BLACK PIT WITHOUT ANY KIND OF CLUE OF A CHANCE FOR REDEMPTION. I want them gone, dead and eviscerated.

Whoa, sure pays out not to have a favourite character, heh. Summa Sum-marum: MK lost the point of it's reason with the countless reoccurences.
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04/29/2007 05:35 PM (UTC)
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I'M SAYING THAT YOU DONT HAVE TO KILL! Its idiotic to just kill characters off just to kill them off when you can just put them on the sidelines until you need them again.
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04/29/2007 06:06 PM (UTC)
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I'M SAYING THAT YOU DONT HAVE TO KILL! Its idiotic to just kill characters off just to kill them off when you can just put them on the sidelines until you need them again.


You miss the point: certain characters are no longer necessary, and their finite death would serve as catalyst for other characters storylines. I cannot picture any kind of character development for Sonya if Kano will miraculo-usly turn up alive again. That would degrade them in the worst way posible.

Yes, permanent deaths are necessary. For the greater sake and the credi-bility of MK or ANY OTHER thingamob with a plot, putting a PROPER end to certain plotlines is well damn in need.

Example 1: there is no resolve or Sonya if he apprehends Kano again ali-ve. ONe of them has to go down, though this is not that good of an exam-ple..

Example 2: can you imagine that Shao Kahn comes back again and again to take throne? From where the fuck wil he garner troops for example, i his credibility as an emperor is overridden by a completely elongated list fo failures? He needs to die, or completely change character 9.(a.k.a. reinven-ting, a.k.a. concept death in literary echelons).

Besides, some characters are THAT GOOD to deserve a inal death, either Shang Tsung will go down permanently (for being a Gendo class bastard that is...) or in a twist of events turns up as the odd-only-choice mentor or one of the main characters in the MK8 era (imagine the good guys moral conflict to train under a horrendrous soul devouring creature that is the only choice for thei immprovement to beats boss XY threatening their homes).

That is a good example of concept death if you overly want a character alive: destroy the original aim, and reshape the character as a consequen-ce of his/her/its actions from the past (having Shang asylumed on Earth for possessing crucial XYZ knowledge of XYZ).
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04/29/2007 06:12 PM (UTC)
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you are not making the least bit of sense honey.
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04/29/2007 06:18 PM (UTC)
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i feel like they need to kill off a lot of the old characters, but not all of them.

I think the characters that have no real storyline potential, like all these characters: Reiko,Jarek,Stryker,Sheeva,Scorpion(although he won't),Liu Kang,Tanya,Shujinko,Kitana,Noob Saibot,Shao Kahn,Kano,Kabal,Jax,Shang Tsung,Sonya,Sektor,Mileena(although i love her), and a couple others.

I also think some characters who were joke/extra characters should be killed off, like these ones:Meat,Mokap,Blaze,Chameleon,Khameleon, and a couple more.

I think the characters that stay need to have a great storyline potential, like all of these characters: Ermac, Johnny Cage(iffy on him),Shinnok,Raiden,Sub-zero(maybe),Sareena,Nitara,Quan Chi,Smoke,Cyrax,Rain,Reptile,and some others.

that's mostly what i think.
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