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Harle
07/05/2012 11:23 PM (UTC)
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annilation's siggy is making me wonder: how come no one questions Smoke's prodigious popularity?

Jade and Smoke both debuted at the same time in MKII in the Living Forest before making playable appearances in MK3 and then disappearing for years before turning up again in MKD.

Actually Noob Saibot as well. The only difference is that he made a playable appearance in the comparatively unpopular MK4.

Why is it that Jade's popularity needs to be justified and not theirs?


It's 'cause she's a girl. tongue
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skahwt
07/05/2012 11:27 PM (UTC)
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How can Johnny be losing? This is terrible
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07/05/2012 11:32 PM (UTC)
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Baraka407 Wrote:
projectzero00 Wrote:
Aaand just as i thought it happened again! Almost every time a new vote is up, ppl start posting like crazy that they voted for a certain character x. Which in our case right now, was Cage who initially got a huge lead! Then after a while ppl stop posting that often and character y is in the lead all of a sudden! I really cant remember how many times it has happened so far, but really?? First time it was exciting, now it is starting to become a little tooo obvious, esp for certain characters like Jade. She is alright i guess and her portrayal in this game was also ok. But doesnt it make you a liiittle sceptical that other characters who had major scenes in the story mode or had an awesome new look and gameplay, were eliminated in the first round (hi Sindel and Sektor) and other characters that just stood there in terms of story development, or were bottom tier in terms of gameplay (to be more specific) are doing waaay better than the first?? I dont wanna bring this up again but seriously now! What has Jade really done to beat first, Mileena and now possibly Cage? Someone plz explain this to me coz i honestly dont get itconfused


You know what I think is sketchy? People constantly inferring that this is rigged when the character they prefer just HAPPENS to be losing or in a dead heat. Quite the conspiracy there. grin


Thats sth someone who is actually part of the whole "conspiracy" you're talking about would say...plus you are not answering my question, just being rude and critical of other ppl's opinions (which is sadly not the first time i see you do that) and thus your comment contributed absolutely nothing to the comversation. I made an observation, which btw other ppl have also noticed if you'd be kind enough to read some posts again, and even after the "character i prefer" lost a while ago, i still gladly voted in many other face offs. But when i speak up about sth obvious...jee i am butthurt coz Mileena lost like 2 weeks ago! Whaaatever lol...
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07/05/2012 11:46 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
annilation Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
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Exactly, Jade stayed the same throughout her story I'm so confused. People are voting for because she is a female or has a pole. I know everyone has an opinion but this getting skeptical.

I'm hoping people aren't creating accounts for their faves to win. Johnny has improved in mk9 a lot! I'm not a die hard fan of his but he deserves this win.

But, as I keep on saying a female will end up winning because she's a favorite.
There's nothing we can do about that. But, at least I know for certain Johnny improved.

Him and Liu Kang showed thier true colors in that game and will have my support.



I have many other reasons to vot for Jade than just "woman with a pole", but if you have followed my posts on here about Jade just a little bit, then you already know what those reasons are.


No, I know you love Jade but it just seems that other explanations are out of this world. Jaded I know your a die hard Jade fan so I know what to expect.



If that is all you think Jade is, then you are indeed ignorant.
There's not much to Jade, but there is more to her than just THAT.
I'm not going to try and convince you anything or argue with you though.



Well jaded -raven the same cane be said about how you view Sub-Zero, i honestly believe he had far ebtter story progression to jade, and i still believe the cyber thing was a half ass attempt to make people go "omg". Anyways i liked Jade alot, but i voted for Cage only because he was great during story mode. This was a hard one to decide.
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07/05/2012 11:49 PM (UTC)
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If Kitana can beat Sub Zero, and Jade survives this battle and wins against the winner of Kabal/Raiden; then we might actually get to see Kitana vs. Jade and that would be kewl IMO but I'm not getting my hopes up.

Regardless, I like Kabal better so he's going to get my vote as a heads-up! Raiden's fatalities have been horrible after MK4 til now. We still havn't got to see an up-to-date 3D form of his classic MK1 Fatality like they should've.

Yet, if it wasn't for Raiden we wouldn't have us a MK9; but he's still not getting my vote :) I absolutely love his vertical slice fatality with the head on his hooksword; that was just pure genius/sweet!!!
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theimmortal20
07/05/2012 11:52 PM (UTC)
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This is fucking stupid. I'm done voting on this obviously rigged compeition. There's obviously some 4chan POS that's voting for Jade nonstop. There is no way that Jade is that popular. That she managed to beat Mileena and now most likely Johnny Cage too. She can't be in the top eight best MK characters. She's a damn supporting character to Kitana. MK rarely has her doing anything substantial in the story.

If she wins, that will be all the validation I will need to determine that the compeition is in fact rigged. Cheers, have fun watching Jade win the whole thing. And everyone should thank Jaded-raven at the end for the being the 4chan loser that's obviously using his boner that he has for Jade to click the button on the mouse to vote for Jade.
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Harle
07/05/2012 11:57 PM (UTC)
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theimmortal20 Wrote:
This is fucking stupid. I'm done voting on this obviously rigged compeition. There's obviously some 4chan POS that's voting for Jade nonstop. There is no way that Jade is that popular. That she managed to beat Mileena and now most likely Johnny Cage too. She can't be in the top eight best MK characters. She's a damn supporting character to Kitana. MK rarely has her doing anything substantial in the story.

If she wins, that will be all the validation I will need to determine that the compeition is in fact rigged. Cheers, have fun watching Jade win the whole thing. And everyone should thank Jaded-raven at the end for the being the 4chan loser that's obviously using his boner that he has for Jade to click the button on the mouse to vote for Jade.


You have to consider who she's going up against... I think both Mileena and Johnny Cage are more polarizing characters than just outright popular. It wouldn't surprise me if they both have as many haters as they do fans. Jade is very neutral in that respect, I don't think very many people actually hate her. Plus... Jade probably shares a lot of fans with Mileena. Like someone said earlier, a lot of people tend to like Kitana/Mileena/Jade as a whole too, in addition to their favorite out of the three. It's very possible for Jade to get that many votes... Maybe not necessarily be that popular, but getting the votes is a different situation. Being one of the "holy trinity" (Kitana, Mileena, Jade, and sometimes Y) of MK females counts for a lot, I would guess.
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07/05/2012 11:59 PM (UTC)
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how is this poll rigged? How many accounts would someone have to make to actually make a difference in a poll? And what reason would this site or someone rig this poll so Jade could win. This is all a conspiracy for Jade to win for no actual reason!!! We decided this at our fictional gay agenda meetings that also upset right wingers :) *two birds, baby. two birds*
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theimmortal20
07/06/2012 12:15 AM (UTC)
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I simply can't believe Jade is that popular. If she was, I'd be fighting her alot more online but I don't. I rarely ever play a Jade-user and I'm 95th in the world for MK on ps3 so I play MK quite a bit. I play far more Mileena and Johnny cage users.
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07/06/2012 12:20 AM (UTC)
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theimmortal20 Wrote:
I simply can't believe Jade is that popular. If she was, I'd be fighting her alot more online but I don't. I rarely ever play a Jade-user and I'm 95th in the world for MK on ps3 so I play MK quite a bit. I play far more Mileena and Johnny cage users.


Popularity of the characters is a bit of a different boat than the popularity of their gameplay.

Jade is quite possibly one of the lowest-tier fighters in the game. Doesn't mean that a high-tier fighter is impossible to beat using Jade, just a lot tougher. And you know how a lot of online randoms are like, they don't enjoy having to work harder for their wins.
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Jaded-Raven
07/06/2012 12:22 AM (UTC)
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Viser Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
annilation Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
annilation Wrote:
Exactly, Jade stayed the same throughout her story I'm so confused. People are voting for because she is a female or has a pole. I know everyone has an opinion but this getting skeptical.

I'm hoping people aren't creating accounts for their faves to win. Johnny has improved in mk9 a lot! I'm not a die hard fan of his but he deserves this win.

But, as I keep on saying a female will end up winning because she's a favorite.
There's nothing we can do about that. But, at least I know for certain Johnny improved.

Him and Liu Kang showed thier true colors in that game and will have my support.



I have many other reasons to vot for Jade than just "woman with a pole", but if you have followed my posts on here about Jade just a little bit, then you already know what those reasons are.


No, I know you love Jade but it just seems that other explanations are out of this world. Jaded I know your a die hard Jade fan so I know what to expect.



If that is all you think Jade is, then you are indeed ignorant.
There's not much to Jade, but there is more to her than just THAT.
I'm not going to try and convince you anything or argue with you though.



Well jaded -raven the same cane be said about how you view Sub-Zero, i honestly believe he had far ebtter story progression to jade, and i still believe the cyber thing was a half ass attempt to make people go "omg". Anyways i liked Jade alot, but i voted for Cage only because he was great during story mode. This was a hard one to decide.


You don't seem to know what my view on Sub-Zero is.
I think he's awesome and I have always thought he was awesome. He's one of the characters of the old timeline with the most interesting storylines. He keeps evolving and he's one of the coolest (no pun intended) characters there's ever been in Mortal Kombat.

So what did you think my point of view is? That just because I prefer his new cyborg form over his human form, I'm ignorant? Because if that's the case, you are sorely mistaken.

On another note... Jade is WINNING?! I'm pleasantly surprised. ^^
I can honestly say that I never expected this to happen. I know Jade is well-liked by some, but I really thought Cage would have alot more voters on his side and that he would win by alot. Let's see how long Jade will actually be in the lead... if she wins this round, I'm going to be thrilled!
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07/06/2012 12:26 AM (UTC)
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ahh well then i take that back, but the cyborg thing... :P. I want just prefer the human, and i want him to change the Lin KUei like he did in the old timeline, by becoming the clans GrandMaster again.

Cage vs Jade is far closer then i thought it would be
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07/06/2012 12:34 AM (UTC)
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projectzero00 Wrote:
Baraka407 Wrote:
projectzero00 Wrote:
Aaand just as i thought it happened again! Almost every time a new vote is up, ppl start posting like crazy that they voted for a certain character x. Which in our case right now, was Cage who initially got a huge lead! Then after a while ppl stop posting that often and character y is in the lead all of a sudden! I really cant remember how many times it has happened so far, but really?? First time it was exciting, now it is starting to become a little tooo obvious, esp for certain characters like Jade. She is alright i guess and her portrayal in this game was also ok. But doesnt it make you a liiittle sceptical that other characters who had major scenes in the story mode or had an awesome new look and gameplay, were eliminated in the first round (hi Sindel and Sektor) and other characters that just stood there in terms of story development, or were bottom tier in terms of gameplay (to be more specific) are doing waaay better than the first?? I dont wanna bring this up again but seriously now! What has Jade really done to beat first, Mileena and now possibly Cage? Someone plz explain this to me coz i honestly dont get itconfused


You know what I think is sketchy? People constantly inferring that this is rigged when the character they prefer just HAPPENS to be losing or in a dead heat. Quite the conspiracy there. grin


Thats sth someone who is actually part of the whole "conspiracy" you're talking about would say...plus you are not answering my question, just being rude and critical of other ppl's opinions (which is sadly not the first time i see you do that) and thus your comment contributed absolutely nothing to the comversation. I made an observation, which btw other ppl have also noticed if you'd be kind enough to read some posts again, and even after the "character i prefer" lost a while ago, i still gladly voted in many other face offs. But when i speak up about sth obvious...jee i am butthurt coz Mileena lost like 2 weeks ago! Whaaatever lol...


Man, will you lighten up already? It was sarcasm. Look, I'm sorry if I came off like a jerk, now or in the past. That's not who I am, really.

But in addition to making light of your claims, I also spoke up because the way I see it, this whole "it's rigged" thing that you and other people keep talking about is basically crapping all over the hard work that has been put in to creating and maintaining what was supposed to be a source of fun and perhaps lively debate for the MK fans that come to this site.

By saying it's rigged, you're calling in to question the mods ability to get rid of fake accounts, and you're saying that all the effort that site admins put in to this whole thing is worth nothing because either they've fixed it or it's fixed in general (by others) so they basically did this for nothing.

So how do you respond? By saying that I must be involved in rigging it too. Thanks man. I've been here since this was MK5.org and I have nothing but respect for the mods and the site operators. I'd never in a million years try to ruin something like this, so please don't include me in your little witch hunt.

Also, my disagreeing with you WAS my contribution to the conversation. You need to accept when people disagree with you and think that your conspiracy is not only far-fetched but disrespectful.

I also read every post in this thread. I don't need to re-read them. Disagree with the way that people voted all you want. Say I have bad taste for preferring Jade to Milleena and Cage all you want. But don't accuse me of cheating and don't accuse the mods of being incompetent (which is basically what you did).

Lastly, I don't believe that I ever said that you were butthurt. If I did, then I apologize. But if you notice, you've been talking about this conspiracy since your favorite character lost, which is basically your only evidence along with a few other surprises over the course of this whole tournament.

I guess I'd just rather assume that people are angry over their favorite characters losing than thinking this site has some problems. Maybe I'm in denial, but I've been here long enough to know that it's probably not the latter.
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07/06/2012 12:34 AM (UTC)
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Viser Wrote:
ahh well then i take that back, but the cyborg thing... :P. I want just prefer the human, and i want him to change the Lin KUei like he did in the old timeline, by becoming the clans GrandMaster again.

Cage vs Jade is far closer then i thought it would be


Thank you. ^^
I loved his old timeline story, but unlike everyone else, I can still see Subbie in his cyborg form doing the things he did in the past games. It's not like his destiny has been completely deleted just because he now suits cybernetics. He's still Sub-Zero. But oh well, some fans decide on one thing and then close up, refusing to think otherwise. If that makes them happy...
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07/06/2012 12:36 AM (UTC)
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lastfighter89 Wrote:
what a shame, Jade winning over Cage.
A palette swap character with zero personality, winning over Cage.
I smell some 4chan user cheat on the poll.


The two biggest names in MK, Scorpion and Sub-Zero, are palette swap characters.
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07/06/2012 12:42 AM (UTC)
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Baraka407 Wrote:
lastfighter89 Wrote:
what a shame, Jade winning over Cage.
A palette swap character with zero personality, winning over Cage.
I smell some 4chan user cheat on the poll.


The two biggest names in MK, Scorpion and Sub-Zero, are palette swap characters.


Adding to that, Jade does have a developed personality. A bit condescending towards Baraka, and witty towards Sheeva in Jade's chapter. I almost think of Jade as a female version of Johnny Cage.
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07/06/2012 12:42 AM (UTC)
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Baraka407 Wrote:
lastfighter89 Wrote:
what a shame, Jade winning over Cage.
A palette swap character with zero personality, winning over Cage.
I smell some 4chan user cheat on the poll.


The two biggest names in MK, Scorpion and Sub-Zero, are palette swap characters.


"But they are the original two, so that doesn't count."

Oh wait, Jade is an original palette swap along with Mileena and Kitana as well, as they share their first appearance in MK2. But oh wait, I forgot, that doesn't matter because she isn't Scorpion, Subbie, Kitana or Mileena...

/sarcasm

But seriously, can't you just hear it? I wonder how many people actually think these things through before posting something like that.
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07/06/2012 12:53 AM (UTC)
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theimmortal20 Wrote:
This is fucking stupid. I'm done voting on this obviously rigged compeition. There's obviously some 4chan POS that's voting for Jade nonstop. There is no way that Jade is that popular. That she managed to beat Mileena and now most likely Johnny Cage too. She can't be in the top eight best MK characters. She's a damn supporting character to Kitana. MK rarely has her doing anything substantial in the story.

If she wins, that will be all the validation I will need to determine that the compeition is in fact rigged. Cheers, have fun watching Jade win the whole thing. And everyone should thank Jaded-raven at the end for the being the 4chan loser that's obviously using his boner that he has for Jade to click the button on the mouse to vote for Jade.


That's really immature. This 'tournament' isn't the end of the world. You can like who you like, but don't call it 'rigged' because Jade is winning. I'm not going to freak out if Shang Tsung ends up besting Ermac. It's not a big deal.
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07/06/2012 01:01 AM (UTC)
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Despite that I know I'm writing to a bunch of people who turned into brick walls, I don't mind posting what I have to write.

You are stupid for thinking that this voting game is rigged. And no, I'm not apologizing for stating the truth.

This is why this site cannot appreciate nice things. You guys get all delusional thinking that if your favorite characters are not winning, something must be up. Just because there are a lot of users in this thread that states who they're voting, doesn't mean this is everyone that is voting... There are users who don't even post in this thread, but they vote... Hope you realize that.

I would have LOVED to see Freddy and Kratos get their asses in this voting game just to see how much you guys would overreact if they managed to out vote your favorites. I know that there would be.

But seriously, a LOT of you are taking this way to fucking seriously and it really scares me on how many of you guys are getting so over-emotional about something that has no kind of important reward that comes towards the end of this. This is for fun, remember that. If you guys can't have fun with something on the internet, then I pity you...
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07/06/2012 01:02 AM (UTC)
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mintpuff Wrote:
theimmortal20 Wrote:
This is fucking stupid. I'm done voting on this obviously rigged compeition. There's obviously some 4chan POS that's voting for Jade nonstop. There is no way that Jade is that popular. That she managed to beat Mileena and now most likely Johnny Cage too. She can't be in the top eight best MK characters. She's a damn supporting character to Kitana. MK rarely has her doing anything substantial in the story.

If she wins, that will be all the validation I will need to determine that the compeition is in fact rigged. Cheers, have fun watching Jade win the whole thing. And everyone should thank Jaded-raven at the end for the being the 4chan loser that's obviously using his boner that he has for Jade to click the button on the mouse to vote for Jade.


That's really immature. This 'tournament' isn't the end of the world. You can like who you like, but don't call it 'rigged' because Jade is winning. I'm not going to freak out if Shang Tsung ends up besting Ermac. It's not a big deal.


Oh, I would also like to point out that I loathe 4chan and I am gay. I have a boner for Reiko, if anyone. ;P
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07/06/2012 01:05 AM (UTC)
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Viser Wrote:
ahh well then i take that back, but the cyborg thing... :P. I want just prefer the human, and i want him to change the Lin KUei like he did in the old timeline, by becoming the clans GrandMaster again.

Cage vs Jade is far closer then i thought it would be


Thank you. ^^
I loved his old timeline story, but unlike everyone else, I can still see Subbie in his cyborg form doing the things he did in the past games. It's not like his destiny has been completely deleted just because he now suits cybernetics. He's still Sub-Zero. But oh well, some fans decide on one thing and then close up, refusing to think otherwise. If that makes them happy...


I respect your opinion and im sorry to ever have bad mouthed you in the past, But i will always stick to his Human form i feel its just "right". But again its nice to have a conversation about these things :)
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07/06/2012 01:13 AM (UTC)
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Hm i never realised being sarcastic over people's opinions was called "disagreeimg...who knew! Anyways back on topic, to answer to some ppl yes i am a fan of mileena but i dont like all the female ninjas! I'd certainly not vote for kitana or jade if they were up against rain, sheeva, ermac, fujin, smoke, baraka, kabal, sindel, sub zero...how did we even come to this conclusion?
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07/06/2012 01:14 AM (UTC)
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Despite that I know I'm writing to a bunch of people who turned into brick walls, I don't mind posting what I have to write.

You are stupid for thinking that this voting game is rigged. And no, I'm not apologizing for stating the truth.

This is why this site cannot appreciate nice things. You guys get all delusional thinking that if your favorite characters are not winning, something must be up. Just because there are a lot of users in this thread that states who they're voting, doesn't mean this is everyone that is voting... There are users who don't even post in this thread, but they vote... Hope you realize that.

I would have LOVED to see Freddy and Kratos get their asses in this voting game just to see how much you guys would overreact if they managed to out vote your favorites. I know that there would be.

But seriously, a LOT of you are taking this way to fucking seriously and it really scares me on how many of you guys are getting so over-emotional about something that has no kind of important reward that comes towards the end of this. This is for fun, remember that. If you guys can't have fun with something on the internet, then I pity you...


Watch out, if you have the audacity to tell people that this is for fun and that this isn't rigged, people will think that you're part of the great conspiracy to defraud the rest of the website users so that... Umm... Wait, what was the goal of the conspiracy again? To make certain characters lose? I forget.

Anyways, thanks for speaking reason. I'm going to try and avoid that from now on (or at least try to be less sarcastic about it lol) and just speak on who I want to win in each vote.
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07/06/2012 01:15 AM (UTC)
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Viser Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Viser Wrote:
ahh well then i take that back, but the cyborg thing... :P. I want just prefer the human, and i want him to change the Lin KUei like he did in the old timeline, by becoming the clans GrandMaster again.

Cage vs Jade is far closer then i thought it would be


Thank you. ^^
I loved his old timeline story, but unlike everyone else, I can still see Subbie in his cyborg form doing the things he did in the past games. It's not like his destiny has been completely deleted just because he now suits cybernetics. He's still Sub-Zero. But oh well, some fans decide on one thing and then close up, refusing to think otherwise. If that makes them happy...


I respect your opinion and im sorry to ever have bad mouthed you in the past, But i will always stick to his Human form i feel its just "right". But again its nice to have a conversation about these things :)


And I respect your opinion. ^^
I think one of the reasons I like Subbie turning cyborg is that it is a really huge step away from being one of the original palette swap ninjas. Now he is nothing like Scorpion anymore. He is still Sub-Zero in my eyes, but he no longer share the palette swap look with Scorpion, which is one huge plus in my opinion. Sure, he now shares the look of Sektor and Cyrax, but rather them than Scorpion. I believe that is one of the major factors in me liking Subbie's new cyborg form. It's definately not the ONLY reason, but it's one of them. ^^

I also liked Cyborg Subbie's gameplay better than his human form. I hope they will mix it together and make it more original though in the next game, because he really should have an all original movelist instead of getting those copy moves, like Cyrax's bombs and teleport move. The dive kick was awesome, so I would rather he kept that and Sonya getting rid of hers, replacing it with the vertical/downward bicycle kick instead.
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07/06/2012 01:17 AM (UTC)
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Hm i never realised being sarcastic over people's opinions was called "disagreeimg...who knew! Anyways back on topic, to answer to some ppl yes i am a fan of mileena but i dont like all the female ninjas! I'd certainly not vote for kitana or jade if they were up against rain, sheeva, ermac, fujin, smoke, baraka, kabal, sindel, sub zero...how did we even come to this conclusion?


I was disagreeing, just doing so in a sarcastic manner. I appreciate the sarcastic way that you pointed it out though! grin

Seriously man, I've got no beef with you. I just saw enough posts from people talking (what I perceived to be) smack about something that this site put on for the fun of the fans and I probably overreacted.

At least we agree on Baraka. Ya know, that's something!
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