Don't seem like it, you seem like you're on medication or some shit.

My plot was descovered

Well I must say that Iam not pleased with this gen games in general .
We may just over rate this gen .
I mean I really get confused some time when I see a tekken 6 vid .I cant find that much of a diffrent .
Also the pic you were given shows that SC 4 did not take that huge step .
So it is not only MK .

Does somebody need a hug?...
Still, there are some major graphic leaps that games like Soul Calibur IV are taking. Really, the difference is QUITE noticeable when you study the screenshots (like I have.) Other games, such as Dead or Alive 4, are remarkably similar to last-gen games like Dead or Alive Ultimate, which was still an amazing game, with only minor graphic modifications. I can't say Tekken 6 is blowing me away graphically, but it does look better than Tekken 5, and Virtua Fighter 5 certainly was a better looking game than Virtua Fighter 4. MK's sort of in the middle right now.

Explain yourself please.

Although I'd simply say, that I program, edit images, and animate enough to know what I'm looking at. Doesn't mean I'm all big headed or some big shot or anything like that, just means I can see it something you can't because I'm doing what they're doing. Regardless of whether it's to a lessor degree at the moment. heh.



It's cool man.

I don't believe I am overrating this gen's capabilities though. At first sight, all I'm doing is siting other games content. Same way Boon did in order to decide the run with the Unreal Engine 3.

There's an example I posted that has nothing but Mitsurugi in it. There are some SC3 and SC4 images in there that I noted with text. Take a look there to see a couple examples of the difference in that game progression, from Ps2/Xbox to now, Ps3/Xbox360.

GUYS! What do you want? A game that looks pretty? Or do you want a game with good fighting mechanics? You guys are going to make the mk team worry about graphics than what really matters, THE ENGINE! Damn, some of you guys piss me off.

Is it too much to ask for both?

I get what you're saying, but instead of worrying about Batman's chin lets worry about the engine, damn!

They’re the consumer, they can bring up any issue they have. And if you’re satisfied with the result, you can just as easily say so. ;)

One thing at a time. We have a thread dedicated to a render to discuss, so that's what's happening.

And if they're confident enough to release renders to the masses, I don't believe they're "worried" at all. Criticism is exactly what I'd look for right now as an artist, if I were them. And iMo, that's what all the pre-release content is for in the first place.

When we get another gameplay vid, expect to be amidst more criticism.

Yea, I want both for a change....finally. I'm glad you're "pissed" off actually. It's usually the point where a person starts to learn "new things" about the subject matter they're pissed off over.

Way to pick "Soul Caliber" for your Previous Gen/Current Gen transformation reference. Considering "Soul Caliber" focuses more on making fancy graphics than bringing any thing new to the table.

Also. Get a life, Mr.Spend 5 hours looking for pictures and write a huge post cause some person on the internet told you that he'd prefer it if you didn't procreate.

Wtf lmao! u sad sh**. What a low life, is this what you spend your time on, analysing every little detail.. da fuck? Its a flippin video game not a bloody picasso paintin! Some people need to fix up, and stop obsessing over stuff that is irrelevent. See the game in motion first and then start your bitchin.

I agree, although it would be great to have "godly graphics", spandex looking costumes to the point where you can literally "smell" the rubber thru the TV screen and someones chin looking like C. Reeve's in every way(Superman's case), that's all ultimately trivial compared to GAMEPLAY.

But then again, I have to remember a lot of MK fans don't seem to care about gameplay and would rather worry about trivial stuff at times so silly me....

I'd like everything improved too, the graphics aren't godly but no fighting game is. FACT. It's like KJ said in the other thread, it looks well good enough and is on par with other fighters. Nuff said.

If I wanted to, I can go thru little pet peeves with other fighters like SF's characters having "large and slightly out of proportion feet" or SC's characters hands not grasping the weapons realistically....but honestly, it's trivial and not the main course of the game right? Well...there you go.

Exactly! The reason we haven't had any good fighting mechanics is because too many people are just obessessed with graphics. MKDA had fantastic graphics but a crap engine, is that what you guys want?

AND FOR CRAPSAKES THEY ARE JUST RENDERS! They are just to look at, thats all, relax!

Wow. Judging by just the last few posts, some are taking this shit way too seriously.

Adding my two cents, the Batman and Sub-Zero renders are lousy. I've never seen Sub-Zero look so emaciated, and DC needs to wake up and start bringing their characters into the 21st century.

In all fairness, Deadly Alliance had a pretty decent engine and is pretty playable, but Midway failed to improve upon it at all in Deception because the dumbass fanbase of Mortal Kombat's were too busy complaining about how their favorite rejects were missing and nobody had two fatalities. So Midway in their haze of stupidity decided to please the retards and scrap like 90% of the previous roster and just shovel in new models with recycled styles, which ended up making everything broken as fuck since they got inbred sacks of crap to playtest the game. I could seriously bitch and moan about Deception all day so I'll just stop.



That's just a stupid comment. Do you pitch a fit about Spider-Man swingin' around in pajamas too?

Honestly, the less inspiring or them all.

I don't think that MKD's lack on a good fighting engine is to blame on fans wanting better graphics, more fatalities, etc. Because if Midway was smart they would take the time to make a game where all aspects of the game get enough attention instead of a fast game to make a quick buck.

I still have yet to understand why people are saying the graphics are "Bad",I think they look fine?Is there any exact reason for this?People will have there opinions,but there is no reason for most of you to constanly nag about the game.

This is a good render, I think Batman and Sub Zero have the best renders by far. For Batman's alternative, he should have an all black suit. Yeah but it does look pretty good.

I agree with the engine part and definitely agree with you on MKD. I don't think it was midway's stupidity per-se, but more of a "panic mode", just them trying to "do too much pleasing everyone" and being that a lot of MK fans are not only whiney but can't agree on more important factors and would rather dwell on trivial BS, we get a mixed game. So, in all fairness the fans are much to blame here that worry about dumb shit over gameplay. In MKA, one of my fellow friends and high level gameplay online people that I've played with MasterMalone went to E3 to address the gameplay stuff with Boon etc and they addressed it and were happy he brought the "gameplay fanbase" to his attention and in MKA we got a better overall game gameplay wise. Surely you know though MKA is a much better game then MKD is as is MK:DA.

You see, me being a high level online player myself I can tell you guys right now how it is.

MK:DA>>MK:A>>>>>>>MK:D in terms of gameplay and engine. This is fact.

MK:DA is the most balanced 3D MK game thus far, overall good and fast, smooth side stepping. The counters and power ups work well. Very few infinites and glitches compared to MKD and MKA that have way more, especially MKD...skill is required in this game at high level.

MKD was fun presentation wise, old characters like Sindel, Ermac etc revamped and storywise but gameplay wise was the worst easily. Why? Well, for one no wake up system implemented, second, no counter moves or parries and being that MKD was an offensive fest of 50/50's, OTG's and FTs' more defensive properties were important yet weren't there....and the game was loaded with easy infinites off of special moves, free throws etc it's not even funny. MKD was the worst in terms of gameplay. Horrible balance, Bo, Dairou and N/S owned the whole game. Fact. Skill is only so much in this game, if you can master easy glitches, FT's, OTG's and or just be pretty good with Bo, Dai or N/S you'll own the game.

MK:A, much better then MKD but balance wise not as good as MK:DA in that sense. There were parries added, wake up that worked GOOD enough to get the job done. It would have been nice to have faster recovery on a missed/whiffed parry but they still got the job done none the less against an offensive player. It wasn't MKD's easy glitch game anymore, MKA requires skill to actually win using the now implemented defensive properties of wake up, parries and jumping(which brought back some good oldschool turtling games)

The flaws in MKA were a few easy infinites but not many or near as much as MKD's and the AC(air cancelling) which isn't easy, it requires a good amount of skill, especially online. I don't use this because I don't need to, some players have their own policies, some use it at high level others don't like myself because I have a solid "ground game" and "bait" game. Still, all players accept both. FT's are also in this game, however very cut down and aren't nearly as important or devastating as they were in MKD.

I just hope in MK8, we get back some of those defensive gameplay elements like parries, tech rolling(wake up) and a good jumping system. I hated MKDA and MKD's jumping, felt like you were walking thru mud....

So, message to midway don't worry about the trivial stuff that half the whiney fans on here will bitch forever about because it doesn't matter. Gameplay comes first and foremost, then worry about someones costumes, render or bio....

First off, I don't think that the renders have anything to do with the freaking game. Look how good Deception's renders was, but are they what the graphics of the game looked like? Heck no! The reason why there isn't much difference between the deception/armageddon renders and MKVSDC is because all of the renders are just done for promotional reasons, they are just to be looked at, they have nothing to do with how the game will look graphic wise!

For example, theres lots of game's that releases renders early and the renders looks very sloppy, but when the game comes out the games look 10x better than the render. Why? because the renders probably are made by a single guy somewhere in the company office while the game itself is made by a hundred other people.

The game looks good to me. People are taking this serious. Calm down, boon said they will do a solo MK after this. I think all the characters look great! Scorp looks undead like he's supposed to, Subs showin his asian side, Batman looks dark and has nodds towards his batman begins look and Superman looks great, not to big and bulky.

Yeah guy's just calm down, this will be a pretty good game. Lets all just be Patient and wait for it to release.

This is bullshit! What the hell?!
Why isn't he a brighter shade of grey and blue?! Why can I see his abs?! Why aren't there eyebrows painted on his cowl?! This is bullshit!!!

And for the last time, MIDWAY WAS TOLD BY DC TO NOT USE THE BLACK BATMAN FROM THE FILMS!

Please tell me you're joking