because theyre...ninjas?

death

But... not all ninja dress the same. In fact, of all ninja costumes I've seen, I've never seen a real ninja costume exactly the same as the Lin Kuei.

And the Lin Kuei aren't technically ninja. Ninja are Japanese; the Lin Kuei are Chinese.

yah i know what your saying... but wouldnt you just pallette swap? saves a lot of time.

death

Umm... yeah... but they could at least put a reason why... Midway are masters of storylines (at least those who work on MK).

Who the hell is Tremor?

blueoakleyz Wrote: Who the hell is Tremor?

he was in like..one MK game *forgot..o well*. Not much is known about that basturd.

death

IamTheS Wrote: Umm... yeah... but they could at least put a reason why... Midway are masters of storylines (at least those who work on MK).

I understand and agree totally..but what would they say? All the other uniforms are sold out?

death

well u should know that Ermac wasnt really suppose to be in mk at all. he started off as just a glitch in mk1 ass scorpion would be in all red for some reason at times. they called hi Ermac wich is short for Error-Macro. well i think they decided to add him to the game and that as a good decision since he is one of the most popular cahrs af all time right now. and nothing is known about him cuz he doesnt have much to his story besides hes a lost soul in out world. now for rain i have no clue about him. as far as i can tell the best info on him is from the movie wich may not be at all the same for the games. but i believe he was a spy and a guard kinda like reptile. now for reptile. he isnt really a ninja but he is at the same time. u know what i mean? hes a big lizard but can take the form of a human ninja from the statues like in the first mk movie. as u have seen reppy started out just showing a little bit under his human mask in mk2 when he did his acid spit. hes kinda like scorppy as scorppy is a skeleton in a human cumtome. and reppy is a lizard man in a human custome. and u should know reppys role was as a spy and a guard for his masters. but now hes the master and i think that kick ass. now noob saibot i have absolute no idea what his story is. all i know is that aperently hes a dark character. both in his apperence and in his story. so any ways to wrap this up i dont believe ermac, rain, or noob saibot were r in a clan. i think reppy is the last of his kind and his most of his kind died off b4 mk 1. i believe there was some thing like that in the mk cartoon. o i forgot to mention smoke. well who doesnt know his story right.

IamTheS Wrote: Okay, I know that Sub-Zero and Smoke are Lin Kuei, and Scorpion wore the yellow Lin Kuei-like uniform to mock his enemy clan, but why do Reptile, Noob Saibot, Ermac, Rain, and Tremor wear the uniform (other than the pallet-swapping scheme - I mean storyline wise)? Has it ever been explained?

To take a guess,

Sub-Zero and Smoke are Lin Kuei like you said.

In MK1, they said Scorpion's uniform mocked the Lin Kuei's. But in MK: Mythologies, they have undead Scorpion appear in his MK3 uniform, which is the same uniform that Noob Saibot wears. So maybe, its the Brotherhood of the Shadow's designated Ninja uniform?

In the early MK's, the said Reptile was just in human form. So maybe in MK1 he decided to take a human form and mimicked the the appearence of the first human he saw; who just happened to be Sub-Zero or Scorpion. That's just a theory.

I read somewhere that Tremor was once a Lin Kuei warrior who joined the Black Dragon. I don't know if that's true because I've never played MK: Special Forces.

Ermac and Rain; I couldn't tell you.

XiahouDun84 Wrote: I read somewhere that Tremor was once a Lin Kuei warrior who joined the Black Dragon. I don't know if that's true because I've never played MK: Special Forces.

Ah. Well, I didn't know that. I haven't gotten far in Special Forces, and have only seen him in the intro. BTW, what color is his uniform supposed to be? Orange? Tan? What?

XiahouDun84 Wrote: IamTheS Wrote: Ermac and Rain; I couldn't tell you.

My guess is Kahn just likes that uniform for some of his henchmen.

IamTheS Wrote: XiahouDun84 Wrote: I read somewhere that Tremor was once a Lin Kuei warrior who joined the Black Dragon. I don't know if that's true because I've never played MK: Special Forces. Ah. Well, I didn't know that. I haven't gotten far in Special Forces, and have only seen him in the intro. BTW, what color is his uniform supposed to be? Orange? Tan? What?

I'm pretty sure tan.

death

Okay, Saankyuu.

IamTheS Wrote: But... not all ninja dress the same. In fact, of all ninja costumes I've seen, I've never seen a real ninja costume exactly the same as the Lin Kuei. And the Lin Kuei aren't technically ninja. Ninja are Japanese; the Lin Kuei are Chinese.

I found you're quote interesting...

"...And the Lin Kuei aren't technically ninja. Ninja are Japanese; the Lin Kuei are Chinese."

Well....... 'technically' you're right. Now I'm not sure how much knowledge the MK Team knows about the origins of the ninja, so I'm just gonna chalk it up to pure luck on their part creating a Chinese clan of ninja. However, the ninja DO have Chinese origins.

An excerpt from:

The Historical Ninja Historical Ninja
By Dr. Masaaki Hatsumi
http://www.bujinkan.co.za/H1.html

"Among the ancient ninjutsu documents that I inherited from my teacher are several scrolls that tell of Chinese ex-patriots who fled their native land to seek sanctuary in the islands of Japan. Chinese warriors, scholars, and monks alike made the journey to find new lives in the wilderness of Ise and Kii south of the capitals in Nara and then Kyoto. Taoist sages like Gamon, Garyu, Kain, and Unryu, and generals from T’ang China such as Cho Gyokko, Ikai, and Cho Busho brought with them the knowledge that had accumulated over the centuries in their native land. Military strategies, religious philosophies, folklore, cultural concepts, medical practices, and a generally wide scope of perspective that blended the wisdom of China with that of India, Tibet, Eastern Europe, and south-east Asia were their gifts to their newly-found followers in Japan."

Here are links to his bio:
http://www.bujinkan.co.za/H3.html

http://www.tacticalselfdefense.com/Bujinkan/Hatsumi.htm

Hope you find it interesting.

I'm Ghost!

Ghost Dragon

That's truly amazing information!! Thanks for posting that for us. I found it very interesting.

ghostdragon Wrote: IamTheS Wrote: But... not all ninja dress the same. In fact, of all ninja costumes I've seen, I've never seen a real ninja costume exactly the same as the Lin Kuei. And the Lin Kuei aren't technically ninja. Ninja are Japanese; the Lin Kuei are Chinese. I found you're quote interesting... "...And the Lin Kuei aren't technically ninja. Ninja are Japanese; the Lin Kuei are Chinese." Well....... 'technically' you're right. Now I'm not sure how much knowledge the MK Team knows about the origins of the ninja, so I'm just gonna chalk it up to pure luck on their part creating a Chinese clan of ninja. However, the ninja DO have Chinese origins. An excerpt from: The Historical Ninja Historical Ninja By Dr. Masaaki Hatsumi http://www.bujinkan.co.za/H1.html "Among the ancient ninjutsu documents that I inherited from my teacher are several scrolls that tell of Chinese ex-patriots who fled their native land to seek sanctuary in the islands of Japan. Chinese warriors, scholars, and monks alike made the journey to find new lives in the wilderness of Ise and Kii south of the capitals in Nara and then Kyoto. Taoist sages like Gamon, Garyu, Kain, and Unryu, and generals from T’ang China such as Cho Gyokko, Ikai, and Cho Busho brought with them the knowledge that had accumulated over the centuries in their native land. Military strategies, religious philosophies, folklore, cultural concepts, medical practices, and a generally wide scope of perspective that blended the wisdom of China with that of India, Tibet, Eastern Europe, and south-east Asia were their gifts to their newly-found followers in Japan." Here are links to his bio: http://www.bujinkan.co.za/H3.html http://www.tacticalselfdefense.com/Bujinkan/Hatsumi.htm Hope you find it interesting. I'm Ghost! Ghost Dragon

I knew ninja had their origins in China, but ninja themselves are Japanese in nature.

IamTheS Wrote: I knew ninja had their origins in China, but ninja themselves are Japanese in nature.

Well what you said speaks to the contraversy of whether there was actually an established clan in China before it migrated to Japan. I've heard a lot of discussion that an early Chinese equivalent existed in southern China. Some have speculated that some of the weapons that are customary of the ninja of Japan, we're initially concieved by this clan. I myself am not entirely sure about this theory, however, it was long before the migration took place. And if you want to look even further, the aspect of concielment could not just have been thought up by the following Japanese equivalent. There had to be a pre-existing tradition within the system that was carried over from China.

This thery has also been expressed through the Hong Kong cinema. The movie Chinese Super Ninjas speaks of the origins having more of a substantal presence in the form of a handfull of practitioners within small clans.

Some people I know say this about the history of the ninja and the art of ninjitsu. "The Chinese initially created it. The Japanese cultivated and perfected it."

Anyhoo, I'm Ghost!

Ghost Dragon

I was merely expressing that to call the Lin Kuei ninja would be technically incorrect.